Nobody is being forced in to anything. You can still buy whatever you want. There is nothing new about electric cars. Tesla has been around for over a decade. And they can't make new Teslas fast enough. Nobody negotiates the price of a new Tesla. They cost what they cost. And that is what they sell for. Has anyone ever seen a Tesla on the side of the road presumably out of power? Has anyone ever seen a Tesla getting towed? How many of you have ever driven or ridden in a Tesla?
The battery warranty on a new Ford Lightning is 8 years or 100000 miles of at least 70 percent original capacity. The Tesla's batteries are lasting longer than advertised. Sure from time to time you will read about one that puked at 40000 miles but that is the exception to the norm.
I will never pay for a new battery for my Lightning. Just as I have never payed for a new motor or transmission in any of the last of seven or eight Ford pickups I have bought new. Because I don't keep anything long enough to go off warranty. So nothing will change much there. Except the warranty on the power train on a gas Ford is 60000 miles and not 100000 like the Lightning.
No oil changes. No transmission. No differentials. No cooling system. No exhaust system. No belts. No hoses. The thing will run my house for days if there is a power failure. So I don't have to screw around with a separate generator for that.
For me there is a lot to like here. I am going to keep my gas pickup for towing and for long distance runs. Because no, we do not yet have an adequate and reliable charging system. But it is getting closer every day. I anticipate driving the Lightning about 90 percent of the time.
There will be some surprises. I know that. I live where it can get to forty below. So it will be interesting to see how that goes. I know it will suck battery capacity. But my gas pickup does not get good mileage in the winter either. Come to think of it my gas pickup doesn't get anywhere near what the window sticker said. None of the pickups I have bought ever get what the window stickers said. The window sticker says 22 highway. When I am driving 77 down the interstate highway I am getting right around 16. Less if there is any kind of a headwind or side wind. This is only about three miles to the gallon better than the 1977 chevy pickup I had way back when. So spare me the fantasy that the new gas pickups get advertised mpg numbers. They don't. They never have. Maybe if you drive 50. But not in real life.
Anyway, I am looking forward to getting the Lightning. And I will report the experience back to everyone both good and bad. My local power coop will put the charging system for the Lightning in my garage. They too want to find out actual charging costs for it. They are going to put a separate in line meter on the isolated charging circuit we will be using. I will be using local off peak to charge it. So it will all be kind of a grand experiment.
well you say no one is forcing anyone, I dis agree, the current president is forcing the hands of many to MOVE towards the direction he wants , like it or not this is a fact!
so we are being forced in a way!,
next I have both been in a Tesla and have seen one broke down on the side of the road, (my sisters kid owns one)
you already know there is only a SMALL percentage of them about, so, its NOT a big surprise a LOT of folks don;t see them broken down, its a percentage game, vehicles of ALL brands break down, they are no different, just fixes road side for them are farther and fewer know of them!, for now any how!
my point here is, simply, if you look at the number of folks that run out of fuel, by taking to towing company's you will realize a LOT of folks do this(heck I have a dumbass brother in law that does it 5-6 times a yr, he seems to think he gets his money worth out of his AAA doing so?>? )
so again, I highly doubt people going to electrical vehicles will be any more reliable on charging over adding fuel, which is right now a more convenient deal,
as there are more gas stations about than charging stations!
yet folks still run out of fuel
NEXT, you stated, NO window sticker was ever accurate, and I fully agree, unless under perfect conditions or likes, but on average , driving with the " GO WITH THE FLOW"< speeds and hills and ?? well, them window stickers never really accurate, I agree!
SO< why do you think the window sticker on a E vehicle will be any more accurate !
I foresee there claims to be just like gas/diesel claims, they will be off! and this is most likely a fact many don't want to admit that want E vehicles!(no bash here just saying )
some how folks that want E vehicles , but they some how want the world to believe all the claims will be better some how,
when we all know OEM's, well, LIE more or less, about what they really will do on the window sticker, than in real world conditions!
hell, there isn;t even a ton of DATA about due to them being as new as they are, and such a small percentage of them about compared to gas/diesel, and they cannot get gas diesel facts right!
and its not just Tesla that has been making them over a decade, there has been many, yet again few are owning them, over the last decade!
till all the HYPE , fear or need to want to conform, or save the planet suddenly! now being pushed by current president that has a war going on against fossil fuel!
if we can again be honest,
prior to his election, E vehicles were NOT in the focus they are now!, few were even thinking much about them, so again forced on us?
so again, in a way YES we are being forced in a direction!
YES some times things go better with e vehicles , but on average?? they are far from the level many want them to be at IMO!
and hey, be honest, window stickers are like pop up adds, making claims that seldom are true!
NEXT, you compare warranty's from fossil fuel to e vehicles,
well, I can tell you for a FACT, ALL Oem's have tons and ton's pf warranty claims LONG before them warranty's expire!
like window sticker, just cause it says it will last to"X" miles, hours yrs? doesn;t always mean it will, I'd even gather few do!
of the say 25+ new vehicles I have owned,(used to buy a new vehicle every 2-3 yrs, and some yrs a few different types of new vehicles ) as a fact NONE have ever got to the expired warranty miles without several repairs, and I have owned vehicles of many different brands and types!
so I again doubt e vehicles are any different !
NEXT say you will never get to the place where a vehicle will be out of warranty , well that's great and again NO bash, BUT not everyone can afford to do this, all the more so with current crazy high prices on new vehicles!
so a large percentage of folks are having to buy and use these older vehicles that are out of warranty, or own and keep a vehicle a long time, where will they be?? I doubt there are many 10+ yr old electrical vehicles still running on our road ways, even if they have been being built longer than this! where are them old one's?
Long gone parked some place!?? there is sure a lot of 10+ yr old gas/diesel vehicles in my area and places I travel too!
NEXT< cordless tools, YUP, I love many of them, also have/had some that sucked, I can also tell you that as ALL of my batteries age, they make all my tools run weaker and hold a charge a lot shorter than they did new!
some died way faster than were supposed too too!
as a FACT many models of tools I have 3 or more of the same model, and I can tell you they DON"T all work as great as the first one did!
seems that like most things in life, as demand for "X" model ITEM, , as they MASS produce them, quality starts to slip, and its not as great as the originals that came out before getting High demand for them!
seen this in countess items over my life time!, which to me just says, just cause something gets popular, doesn;t mean it gets made better! or last longer
HELL< I honestly think we live in a world today where NO company really wants to make anything last LONG, they only try to get it to last long enough folks don;t complain,. NO money in making something that last forever!, will sell more if it fails and needs replacing!! so consumers buy again!,
AKA< a disposable world we live in with this mind set, and if were trying to save the planet, maybe that's a wrong mind set, but its more profitable than making things last forever! HUMM<