Legal Weed in Michigan

old abe

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It won't matter what method, or type "weed" source they use if being under random drug test program. The drug element just stays in their system too long, and they will eventually get caught. Drinking alcohol pretty much gone in 8/10 hrs.
 

snobuilder

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So this just hit me right between the eyes today as I am still shaking my head over my states governor losing his job. It was akin to a SB winning coach being replaced right after the win.

I predicted an easy win for Walker due to what I saw as little interest by the obama voter type. But guess what, I had no idea that there were 3 pot related advisory questions on the ballot in several of our high populated counties in SE WI....this brought out the pot smokin dum dums in droves!!!! Effin Dems are a clever bunch, no doubt.
 

snocrazy

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you are so right! was looking at the district maps and #s of votes for dems related to the weed votes. You can see just that.
I know this is touching on politics so will keep opinions to my self. But the younger generation of voters being dem is obvious.
 

tourguide

New member
What you all think. I think it will good for the economy. No more wasted jail space for people who use some thing natural that does less harm than alcohol. No more need to get medical cards and being on yet another list.
Canada pass it nation wide and I heard there is now a shortage. Makes you think about opening a business to grow.
Going to be interesting to see how long this all takes to get figured out.

I'm for it, but my CDL driver license isn't, one bad thing its shrinking an already shallow pool of working talent because nobody can pass a whiz quiz
 

sweeperguy

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you are so right! was looking at the district maps and #s of votes for dems related to the weed votes. You can see just that.
I know this is touching on politics so will keep opinions to my self. But the younger generation of voters being dem is obvious.

Minnesota has a new political party. Legalize Marijuana Party.
Heard something about they got enough percentage of votes this election to be a fully recognized political party.
 

euphoric1

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tourguide, exactly right once we make it legal, it wont be wrong to smoke it, possess it but there are still occupations that use is an absolute no no, and like myself even though it is legal I wont tolerate it either and as someone had said previously it stays in your system much longer than alcohol. So if it is legal I can see some people thinking they are doing nothing wrong even though it is against my occupation rules because it is legal, I can also see rules being bent as Im sure it will be a huge tax revenue generator, just as we are all expected to look the other way at millennial work force habits, demands and work ethic, and Im not saying all of them. I know it wont be the end of the world, in my opinion I just think its a bad idea and what will be next.
I'm for it, but my CDL driver license isn't, one bad thing its shrinking an already shallow pool of working talent because nobody can pass a whiz quiz
 

ezra

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I really can't see engineers and lawyers and orthodontists and heart surgeons going out on a break and getting smoked up. Heavy equipment operators will likely have a no tolerance policy and be subject to random drug tests. This leaves the menial boring jobs as the most likely place for employees getting high at work. These same menial boring jobs are the ones that machines are being made to replace humans. This will just speed things up.

fyi occupations with the highest percent of users lawyers fall in the top 3 .
I for 1 think it is completely rediculs any state is still keeping it illegal. oh no the crazy pot heads are going to invade and sit around relaxing .
I will actually start travelling to MI to ride again
 
The questions for large employers is how do you judge impairment. If you see someone physically sleeping or walking funny or falling down etc you can do something right there. They could be having a stroke even. Alcohol stays in the body for what 24-48 hours? Weed is a lot longer even after the high wears off. So if you smoke on the weekend and get in an accident at work on Wednesday who's to say that didn't cause it. For me that is going to be the sticking point. almost everybody has driven when hungover, no alcohol in the body but certainly impaired to drive so how do you measure that?

It would be interesting to see how the other states handled it and model it after the good points.

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So this just hit me right between the eyes today as I am still shaking my head over my states governor losing his job. It was akin to a SB winning coach being replaced right after the win.

I just thought of your response and I would've replaced McCarthy the year he won the Super Bowl....
 

ezra

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I understand the room in jails, and the tax revenue it will generate but if it becomes legal, as an employer you come to work smelling of pot....done and if it will be legal to purchase it how about all of the people on entitlement programs, if it is legal to use and legal to buy, I guess if i'm footing your food, medical, housing expenses there should be no reason to do testing because if you can afford to buy that (now that its legal) I guess you don't need the tax funded programs anymore, I don't understand why it isn't that way now . I guess I think its a bad idea personally, how are you going to determine how high someone is? and now we are going to have to allow people to go out and smoke some bud on break? not here, legal or not, im not going to tolerate it. but im sure sooner than later it will be and we will all be expected to look the other way, make new rules just like we have been doing for the new generation. Im glad I grew up when I did when there was expectations, repercussions and accountability for actions or inactions. To me its just crazy how things are changing, so no I think its a bad idea.

so do you tolerate people drinking on there break do you tolerate some one coming to work stinking like booze . heck no you don't but for some reason you think because a guy may want to smoke a joint after work he is going to be coming to work stoned ? where do you people get theses fears .
I get you concern with welfare system and drugs but leagaly pot will not change any ones addiction . in fact it will prob lessen the use of hard drugs .you don't need to go out searching for your drugs in sketchy places with people selling more than just pot . and who needs heroin or any downers with the refined concentrates out there now days .
we are all ok with a bar on every corner but pot now it is time to worry . it will all be ok no one worry . every one who is going to buy already has been tax free for as long as you have knowen them . and it is a lot more than you can imajin .
 

whitedust

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so do you tolerate people drinking on there break do you tolerate some one coming to work stinking like booze . heck no you don't but for some reason you think because a guy may want to smoke a joint after work he is going to be coming to work stoned ? where do you people get theses fears .
I get you concern with welfare system and drugs but leagaly pot will not change any ones addiction . in fact it will prob lessen the use of hard drugs .you don't need to go out searching for your drugs in sketchy places with people selling more than just pot . and who needs heroin or any downers with the refined concentrates out there now days .
we are all ok with a bar on every corner but pot now it is time to worry . it will all be ok no one worry . every one who is going to buy already has been tax free for as long as you have knowen them . and it is a lot more than you can imajin .
Pot dispensaries I have been to in NE are very professionally managed and you have to show your driver license upon entering. Reefer madness was put to bed in the 60s and is not a gateway drug. Why all this fear about legalization?.....sounds similar to prohibition and that was a disaster. Legalization will happen thruout the USA just like Canada so get used to it.
 

slimcake

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Ya walking into the dispensary in CO was very professional. Checked ID. Had to wait because they would only allow so many in the "showroom" at the same time. Once in there though it was very well organized. The help were able to tell you all about the products if ya know what I mean. I think they buy visine eye drops in 5 gallon pails. LOL. This grandpa aged grey haired dude walked up next to me to talk to the lady behind the counter. He had a clipboard with a legal pad full of notes. He said to the gal "I think we are almost there. Just still missing the real deep thoughts..." Bout choked up from laughin. I think it will become legal. It is better than booze. Just no way to test how "high" someone is. Makes it tough as a business owner with employees.
 

old abe

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Michigan-based US Attorneys release statement on passage of Proposal 1

Some occupations/employers consider drug usage, be it legal or not, unsatisfactory. Jobs that require a CDL for instance with random drug testing. If it show up in the blood or urine test, you are under the influence.

You are spot on eao. No way to change that part of it, legal, or not. I do drink, and have for many years. As a truck driver, I haven't any idea how many random drug, or substance tests I have had, and never failed one. It is just being responsible for your own actions. IMO, there are far too many impaired drivers on the road today, no matter the substance being used!!! This contributes to many innocent deaths, and leaving broken families.
 

chords

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Today it is illegal, but yet can be found/bought/smoked pretty much anywhere anytime for any age group and is a part of everyday life in todays society. Just like cigs or alcohol,, either you do or you don't. So all of the concerns about useage are present today. There might be some curiosity seekers but I don't see all the non - smokers being all in just because it is now legal.
 

snoluver1

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I didn't take the time to read all the posts, but I skimmed through a lot of them. In my opinion, all the concerns about people showing up to work high or smoking a doobie on their lunch break are totally unwarranted. If I had to guess, 99.9 % of the people who want to smoke pot....already do! It's probably the most widely available "illegal" drug there is! I don't think a whole bunch of society is going to run out and become potheads just because it's now legal?
I like beer. I like beer a lot. I don't show up to work drunk. Just sayin'...
 

snoluver1

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Jezus.... yur circle speak is pure pothead....LMAO....I just need a way to monitor the stinking potheads so as to fire their dumbasses for coming to work high and dangerous. That might be the only reason to legalize your weakness.
Circle speak? I thought my point was pretty clear. I'm not sure what the **** your talking about? Maybe I'm too high right now to understand?
 

euphoric1

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snoluver, I agree with you, and yes that most of the people who want to already do, but those that already do, especially the ones who abuse it, will it make the abuse even worse because yes even though there will be controls put on purchasing or possession, it may make it a more accessable or abusable drug, or will it even be considered a drug after it is legalized. I guess my concern is once it becomes legalized will the fact that it is become an argument for testing or discrimination from not being hired for a job or position. yes I like a drink now and then as well too but im not an alcoholic nor do I go to work drunk or under the influence, I agree. But it is my understanding that in states that are the people that don't or cant get jobs because of testing is on the rise and I just worry that processes will change to alleviate the potential. just as alcoholism is a recognized disease, to me its called put the bottle or tumbler down. I also agree with the fact that it will generate tax revenue, start business that we didn't have before and yes the state stands as well as individuals stand to profit from it, my main concern is once it is legalized that things will change and that society as a whole will end up paying for it in one way or another
I didn't take the time to read all the posts, but I skimmed through a lot of them. In my opinion, all the concerns about people showing up to work high or smoking a doobie on their lunch break are totally unwarranted. If I had to guess, 99.9 % of the people who want to smoke pot....already do! It's probably the most widely available "illegal" drug there is! I don't think a whole bunch of society is going to run out and become potheads just because it's now legal?
I like beer. I like beer a lot. I don't show up to work drunk. Just sayin'...
 

snobuilder

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You said its ok to smoke pot while at work but not ok to drink? We need mandatory and random testing in all workplaces which may include a blood draw....it's the only fair wat to WEED out the losers.
 
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