Polaris 800's - How they working with the new Top end and mapping

[d8switchback09]

Ok people here is what the paper work says on my update...ENGINE DURABLITY UPDATE...if that means it fixed the proformance then I'am fine with this, but I'am thinking it's not going to fix my hicup problem. Believe me when talk to the folks in West Yellowstone last year, they said we knew it was there but most of the time we don't have issues with it, cause they are on the throttle,so I think most of the testing on this motor was on the 08 rmk's...

PS... THEY CHANGED PARTS BECAUSE OF ENGINE FAILURES...just my opinion

 

[indyxcr]

I talked to several people that had it redone and no problems faster runs better no hicups I will let you know next week, I will have mine done this Tuesday, then will be in Mercer for 5 days. 2009 800 dragon 2009 800 reg both of mine will be done 1 at a dealer in Il, the dragon done at North Country in Manotwish Waters in Wi. If they don't run perfect they will traded off this next year!
I never had a hicup on the 800 reg, but I do on the 800 Dragon the dealer said after the the new remap, pistons, new heads, new slp, can redo check power valves you will not have a problem.
I will have a new post by the end of next week to let you know what happens, also 70 gram weights helped alot in the clutch.

 

[bigkevs]

Had my update done, first few minutes of running thought things were worse than before. Next time out was around the lake for about 4 miles, very rich feeling to it, almost a flat spot,hesitation at low speeds when blurping the flipper. Now, I figured with some new snow and a full tank of premix I'm going to get this thing broke in. Yesterday I put on just under 50 miles and she did NOT feel sluggish or cough or spit or sputter. I felt a HUGE smile on my face all day.I do run the iridium plugs(dealer left them in) and I put the 70gram weights in.
(Prior to trying to get the re-breakin done in one setting, I also started it up and cooled off probably 5X before I went on the longer ride)

MY opinion is that the longer you get some time in the saddle and get thru the extra oil in the gas tank, this thing should come back to life with a little longer legs and no heart palpitations...Get out and ride, you can enjoy this beast.

 

[zimmbob]

Took the first major ride with the sled yesterday. About 80 miles of rough trail. Not really the sled for it, but the motor worked well. Had the little hicup until I filled up with fresh gas. Then it seems to go away. Lot's of power, that's for sure.

 

[hillclimbinjunky]

I picked up an '09 Assault this year with 400 miles on it and the rebuild/remap. After a nice and easy break in period, I went to the UP two weekends ago and the sled ran awesome without any hiccups but my check engine light kept coming on. This resulted in the sled going into limp mode. Took the sled to the dealer who ran the computer on it and the fuel mapping was messed up. All they did was update the mapping on it. So back to the UP I went this weekend. Needless to say 80 miles later the engine blew and there I sat in Houghton. Hopefully this was just a fluke. Oh ya the sled was running at 122 degrees is this too cold???

 

[dhealy8]

Our crew has two Poo 2010 800's with a couple hundred miles on them and both are hiccuping for a split second when pinned at times. Especially in the deep snow. They don't seem to do it for a bit after being shut off for a few mins. We took them on the trail today for 15 miles or so to lay the wood to 'em after a fairly gentle break in period. They are losing power at high rpm after letting off and pinning again. It's like the spark is retarding or something. Its definatly not the fuel cause the M8 in our crew had no problems at all. One poo has champion plugs and one NGK. One changed plugs since break in, one didn't. Going to see what dealer says/knows when we get home. Anyone have any ideas? Other than that they handled well and ran strong in the fresh snow we've gotten up here in the last couple days. Not a bad couple days of riding for early season

Happy New Year to all,

Dan

TFP over and out from the UP

 

[G]

Don't know about the hiccupping but not revving up after letting off and hitting it again sounds more like a clutching issue. Anyone know if they put heavier weights in the drive clutch as a part of this update? Perhaps they won't pull heavier weights.

 

[dhealy8]

Grub, thanks for the info. They new 800 motors call for the same 68g weights (to the best of my knowledge) at low elevation as the '09's.

Dan

 

[ezra]

and people keep buying 800 poos why.what do you call it when you keep doing the same thing over and over expecting diff results

 

[G]

Ezra - There are still a lot of die hard Pol riders. They were #1 in sales for quite a few years and built up some loyalty. I had over 20 of the things but they finally got rid of me with the '97 Storm. They build great medium displacement sleds but they can't seem to ever get their big horse right. This goes back 30 years....

 

[whitedust]

People like Poo sleds don't know why? I have simular thoughts to both Grub & Ezra. Poo has big time injected 2s engine problems why shell out $8-10K & deal with that ****e? Other 3 have much better products try them.

 

[dhealy8]

Yea you guys are right, I don't blame poo at all, just myself. It was/still is definately a big gamble that's for sure with all the probs in the last few years... and I had an '09, I should have known better than anyone!!..ha We'll see how it holds up the rest of the year, cause its gonna get put to the test!!

 

[ezra]

Grub that is funny a 97 storm was the last on I owned.the carb 800 liberty's were great but the FI blows I have a few buds with big time buyers remorse

 

[G]

The carbed Liberty 800s had a bad habit of injesting the exhaust valves and making shrapnel out of the cylinders. Unless the PTO side of the crank fell off first. There are more than a few guys up here that are still running 5,6 and 7 XCSP's. They are putting on tracks and trying to keep them solid in other ways so they stay dependable. They are die hard Pol guys but they don't like what they see coming out of Roseau so they are just kind of standing pat. A well maintained XCSP is still a good sled for trails. They turn a lot better than a lot of the newer, higher stuff. And they are undeniably warmer to ride.

 

[whitedust]

Funny Grub I left Poo in 96 & never looked back either. They just were not keeping up back then. Had a AC sled a very short time made Poo look GREAT back then. Bought 3 new doos since 98 until the dreaded 800 crank lock up that Ezra had too. Now on Yamaha Attack GT 4s best sled ever!

However: I have to hand to the Poo guys in this thread...at least your are trying to stick together for a fix but my advice is to bailout ASAP. You deserve much better.

 

[zimmbob]

Rode mine some more on Saturday. Even after teh 3rd tank of gas, I still get the hick up in there on occasion. Have to check in with the dealer to see what's going on. I'll try changing the plugs too.

 

[indyxcr]

The 2009 800 IQ had the the new pistons and new remap done runs great no more problems, the 2009 800 dragon is getting done this week it had a little hicup, the 800 IQ never did, the dealer said Polaris is having issues with the mapping, but up in Mercer Wi this last week 5 Artic Cats 2 Yamaha's 1 800 IQ Polaris, were being towed in the last 2 days, so my point is some sleds are perfect and some suck, back in 2004 Artic Cats f7's my friend had 2 and they both blew up first day, then a couple years latter Ski-doo had problems, so its a gamble with the new high tech and 10/ethanol in gas screws up motors.
Next year the new Polaris 2011, 800 RUSH with a new 800 motor, I'll wait 1 more year on this, let them get all the problems out.

 

[beavers33]

09 800 Dragon, had the recall work done in Twin Lakes Wisconsin back in November. Along with the pistons, head, and remapping, they replaced the cylinders because of a couple of scapes in the old cyclinders. I did have the hicup last year but it servived the season, only 1,200 miles. Got out for the first ride the day after Christmas in Houghton for 4 days. With 5 gallons of pre-mix put on 55 miles never at constant speed, had some slight hesitations once in a while but thought it was due to the gas mixture. Added fuel, and the hesitation was gone, machine ran great the next 3 days, in total 500 miles. Put an additional 100 miles on New Years Day in Adams County Wisconsin, machine has run great. I ran NGK plugs in my machine last year, and the dealer put NGK plugs in the machine after the recall work, needless to say I have yet changed plugs.

On New Years Day heading back to the cabin at night when the temp was 0 degrees out, the machine seemed to have a couple of hesitations, but really did not get to get on the gas much since the speed limit is 55 at night in Wisconsin and the DNR were out with radar guns in the Hancock - Adams area. I am going to try a new set of plugs before my next ride.

The machine only backfired once, and that was when I was starting it one morning in Houghton. The machine does have electric start.

All in all I am very happy with the machine. Compared to last year it is night and day. Top speed so far is 98 miles an hour, but I am not one for trying to see how fast I can get it every time I am out. I also installed the heavier gauge rear springs since I am 6'3" 255 pounds, no more bottoming out on the rough stuff.

Throughout the season if the machine develops any problems I will let you all know, but as for now I am happy with the machine performance and I am looking forward to dialing in the suspension even more. Next big trip will be in 3 weeks in Grand Marais for 4 days, but before then hopefully another small trip to Adams Wisconsin, depending on work schedule.

Keep your posts coming.

 

[indyxcr]

One more thing I have the wire plugged in on the 800 Dragon runs good when I had the wire unplugged on the 800 dragon I fouled plugs, but i left the wire unplugged on the 800 IQ it ran better unplugged.
Also the 800 IQ is faster than the dragon.
Also the dealer said unplug if you use poor gas or lower than 91 octane or risk motor problems.

 

[d8switchback09]

I'am back with some news, mine has the hicup as I said but it run past a 800 Ski-doo so the top end is good... the trouble on these poo's is fuel delivery..the 4 injector system is not right,so it stumbles when it goes from the low to the high injectors. you will only notice it @ certain rpms..Love the sled...just that little hicup that I hate