so what do you do then, everytime something goes wrong with the sled you are riding you get rid of it and change brands? Wow wish I had that kind of money. After you have run thru all the brands then what? We all know that they ALL have probs! Sorry but I am just sick and tired of all the ( why do you get rid of the poo and ride something else) crap! I have heard of PLENTY of probs with ALL brands. Poo is not the only one to have motors go boom. I have seen them ALL go boom at one time or another new and old. Like the old saying goes if its mechanical its prone to probs one way or another sooner or later.
Polaris 800's - How they working with the new Top end and mapping
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There is a time to change brands.
Sure all brands have problems but when I purchase a new sled & the engine goes boom I got it fixed & exited that brand as soon as I could. Why would new engine be any better?? The trust was broken & never felt secure again with that sled. Bad karma with that sled. I got all the recalls done on that particular AC traded on a new Doo & during that winter the doo dealer asked where I got AC clutch recall done because the clutch came off on next buyer. The AC already had a 2nd new engine & really never ran right simular to the Poo 800s then when I heard the clutch came apart I knew I made the right decision. Even AC dealer called it a lemon took it back to AC in MN so many problems still did not run right. As time went on bought several new doos that were good sleds. When doo started freezing cranks & flaking rings it was about 3 years before they got that corrected so exited doo since I had both frozen crank & flaking rings & new 800 on my buck. Now with Yamaha Attak & zero problems in 6000+ miles not 1 recall no failures, nada just ride gas & go & change oil & filter at end of season. Very good karma with this sled so staying with it. Best performance of any OEM that I purchased new. Poo has 800 engine problems & new engine could go boom again so for me I would get out if it was my sled try Yam 4s or Doo etek both much better engines that Poo 800. To me there is a time to try another brand whatever brand when you know a particular OEM has engine problems in the cc engine you want. Why take a chance when you know there is a problem? Move on to better proven tech that you know is better. Seems logical to me & the way I handled it.
Sure all brands have problems but when I purchase a new sled & the engine goes boom I got it fixed & exited that brand as soon as I could. Why would new engine be any better?? The trust was broken & never felt secure again with that sled. Bad karma with that sled. I got all the recalls done on that particular AC traded on a new Doo & during that winter the doo dealer asked where I got AC clutch recall done because the clutch came off on next buyer. The AC already had a 2nd new engine & really never ran right simular to the Poo 800s then when I heard the clutch came apart I knew I made the right decision. Even AC dealer called it a lemon took it back to AC in MN so many problems still did not run right. As time went on bought several new doos that were good sleds. When doo started freezing cranks & flaking rings it was about 3 years before they got that corrected so exited doo since I had both frozen crank & flaking rings & new 800 on my buck. Now with Yamaha Attak & zero problems in 6000+ miles not 1 recall no failures, nada just ride gas & go & change oil & filter at end of season. Very good karma with this sled so staying with it. Best performance of any OEM that I purchased new. Poo has 800 engine problems & new engine could go boom again so for me I would get out if it was my sled try Yam 4s or Doo etek both much better engines that Poo 800. To me there is a time to try another brand whatever brand when you know a particular OEM has engine problems in the cc engine you want. Why take a chance when you know there is a problem? Move on to better proven tech that you know is better. Seems logical to me & the way I handled it.
but the prob is it is happening sooner than later with the 800.they know they have probs and keep sticking it to there customers saying it is fixed now. then you are going in for a re flash 3or 4 more times a yr and still bogging in the mid. so the better ?why would you buy one when you know it is bad?why not go out and find a nice clean lightly used Yugo. not all poo are bad just the 800 so why buy it?
All I can say is that my 2009 800 Dragon, 2009 800 IQ had a few problems but never a burn down motor for the year 1,400 on the 800 IQ, 780 miles on the Dragon, both run great. It all comes down to the dealer. I deal with one of the best in Wisconsin, and one of the best in Il.
Like I said before I have had Ski-Doo but the dealers closed down years ago, and I could not find a good dealer to take care of me. One of friends tried Artic Cat 2 new sleds blew the motor the next day none of the dealers wanted to bother fixing it. He switched back in 2 years to Polaris. Polaris needs to get there 800 motor right, but they backed the motor and fixed the problem. It's a gamble on any brand. One guy had a new Ski Doo 1000 it blew up North of Pine Lake lodge. Another one a new Ski Doo 800 blew up south of Mercer.
I have seen 8 from all four brands go down this year 3 Artic Cat, 2 Ski doo, 2 Yamaha, and 1 Polaris Dragon, more than the last 5 years. I think none of the 4 brands have the mapping perfect and the fuel injection has some problems, in years ago with the carbs we never had problems with the sleds braking down a lot or blowing motors all the time.
It also seems to be with the gas in the UP from my Dealer in Wisconsin 3 out 12 blew up there motors, the 3 that went to the UP all went down that same day.
Same thing with the dealer in Il the owner and his friend blew up both 800's the same time in the 3 day weekend.
Since the rebuild they have not have had too many problems in the UP.
I only go to certain gas stations each year to many problems with bad gas all over the states even Wisconsin and Il, but the biggest problem is the UP.
Like I said before I have had Ski-Doo but the dealers closed down years ago, and I could not find a good dealer to take care of me. One of friends tried Artic Cat 2 new sleds blew the motor the next day none of the dealers wanted to bother fixing it. He switched back in 2 years to Polaris. Polaris needs to get there 800 motor right, but they backed the motor and fixed the problem. It's a gamble on any brand. One guy had a new Ski Doo 1000 it blew up North of Pine Lake lodge. Another one a new Ski Doo 800 blew up south of Mercer.
I have seen 8 from all four brands go down this year 3 Artic Cat, 2 Ski doo, 2 Yamaha, and 1 Polaris Dragon, more than the last 5 years. I think none of the 4 brands have the mapping perfect and the fuel injection has some problems, in years ago with the carbs we never had problems with the sleds braking down a lot or blowing motors all the time.
It also seems to be with the gas in the UP from my Dealer in Wisconsin 3 out 12 blew up there motors, the 3 that went to the UP all went down that same day.
Same thing with the dealer in Il the owner and his friend blew up both 800's the same time in the 3 day weekend.
Since the rebuild they have not have had too many problems in the UP.
I only go to certain gas stations each year to many problems with bad gas all over the states even Wisconsin and Il, but the biggest problem is the UP.
polarisrider1
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Well put.
Lead a horse but....
I'm sharing what happend to me with other brands that had KNOWN engine probs. You could get stuck for an out of warranty blown 800 & totally be on your own & your buck. Dealer also has nothing at stake when you are paying, really can't, & will tell you talk to Poo knowing full well Poo will say sorry out of warranty. That is the nature of the biz game with all brands. Then YOU will you have to purchase a new engine & your tone will change. Nobody said Poo is crap or don't purchase any Poo sleds just said 800 has problems may be better off with better brand in 800 cc engine. I have been there done that & new engine will cost you $2000-3000 on a refurb taking your old engine in trade & out of warranty & that will be the best Poo can do. You may want to consider trading in on a new Poo 600 or trading in on a different brand 800cc while the sled & engine are still solid. Many of you will get caught with blown out of warranty 800 engines so consider your options before you get to that point. No brand will replace blown engine on an out of warranty sled in mass no matter the cause. Just friendly advice so you know what is coming & you can do whatever you think is correct for you. I like to hear from JD members that have gone before me so I can learn from them & not be shell shocked after the fact.
I'm sharing what happend to me with other brands that had KNOWN engine probs. You could get stuck for an out of warranty blown 800 & totally be on your own & your buck. Dealer also has nothing at stake when you are paying, really can't, & will tell you talk to Poo knowing full well Poo will say sorry out of warranty. That is the nature of the biz game with all brands. Then YOU will you have to purchase a new engine & your tone will change. Nobody said Poo is crap or don't purchase any Poo sleds just said 800 has problems may be better off with better brand in 800 cc engine. I have been there done that & new engine will cost you $2000-3000 on a refurb taking your old engine in trade & out of warranty & that will be the best Poo can do. You may want to consider trading in on a new Poo 600 or trading in on a different brand 800cc while the sled & engine are still solid. Many of you will get caught with blown out of warranty 800 engines so consider your options before you get to that point. No brand will replace blown engine on an out of warranty sled in mass no matter the cause. Just friendly advice so you know what is coming & you can do whatever you think is correct for you. I like to hear from JD members that have gone before me so I can learn from them & not be shell shocked after the fact.
Jeff: That is great but dealers no matter how good can not fix engineering problems. They can try their best but mapping & software is very difficult to remedy at the layman level if Poo pulls warranty plug. There is a thin line here that will get much better or much worse depending on what Poo does with prior 800s in & out of warranty. Poo is in this very deep with super high 800 warranty cost of double ringed piston replacements & remappings but if all these recalls don't work & they won't for everyone many people will get stuck with blown engines. I had 2 year warranty on 800 doo & it was not enough. Got stuck with bad crank bearing & flaking rings. When we disassembled engine at about 5000 miles after crank froze everything else was in great shape but the rings & crank. Pissed me off because Doo knew about both rings & crank bearings but it was too bad whitedust out of warranty. Poo will draw warranty line in sand because they can even tho we all know these 800s are in trouble. If it was me I would trade in on Poo 600 or another brand 800 that has better track record & not feel married to the Poo 800. I learned my lesson bailed on AC did not bail on Doo but should have.
I like the advice of trading brands. I would have to say I've ran that thought thru my mind several times. On the other hand I have to give Polaris a chance since our family is POLARIS lovers. I may complain about this motor but I did know about the problem before I bought the 09 leftover. However, the motor was rebuilt with zero miles on so that convinced myself and allot of other polaris people to buy the 800 leftovers. The only thing about having the right dealer is having one that sold you a extended 3 year warranty. It's not any certain dealers fault that they can't fix this motor problem. It's polaris and I think this problem could haunt them if they don't fix the 2011. My solution for now is waiting for my new engine and hopefully a little snow somewhere to test it out. I'm also going to ride it until the 3 warranty is up and then trade, and still taking the old 600 for a backup to ride. If you guys think the answer is to trade it off now, your crazy. Try any dealer to see what they give you to trade. It's gonna be cheaper to have a the backup sled.
The 800 IQ gets traded for a 2011 800 pro-r rush. Keeping the 2009 800 Dragon. I think they changed the injectors on the new 800 RUSH same motor. Also it is geared for more low and mid range power.
All I say is my 800 dragon had a better hole shot, but the 800 IQ had a better high end but the track was 1 inch not 1.25 like my dragon. Polaris claims the 800 pro-R will have more power than the last 2 years 800's we will see.
What is weird about the 800's is that every 500 miles or so it keeps getting faster same with both sleds.
All I say is my 800 dragon had a better hole shot, but the 800 IQ had a better high end but the track was 1 inch not 1.25 like my dragon. Polaris claims the 800 pro-R will have more power than the last 2 years 800's we will see.
What is weird about the 800's is that every 500 miles or so it keeps getting faster same with both sleds.
the new 800 rush is a single injector per cyclinder. less headaches I guess. I heard that they are crazy fast with lots of torque. I rode a 600 rush and wasnt sold on the egronomics of it and it seemed kinda small for me. the motor was ok just not an 800 ya know. I acually prefer the ride and handling of my IQ.
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I like my IQ too, but when I rode the Rush this year, there was no comparison! The Rush handled much better, IMO.