Poos Problems

[lenny]

Like I said earlier, skip the warranty and use $400 for replacement pistons. You still will be ahead money.

Idk, if I'm going be riding the mtns, I'm going to do my best to make sure the sled is ready for it. Maybe it's not such a big deal here in the Midwest. Lot easier walking the trails than deep snow. Never far from a house here either.

Remember, they all break down. And most if not all dealers are swamped during the winter. Coming online and complaining about how your cat eats belts, or your doo spits bearings, or your Yamaha is a heavy slug that cracks suspension rails, or poo breaking pistons, isn't gonna get it fixed any faster or fixed right.

that's true but a thread does help others to understand. What I like is that many people love the handling of the sled so much it is worth it to fix it. I have had enough time modding my sled out and I wanna ride without worrying. If Cat can give a impressive ride without the motor blowing than the info be offered up is worth while. I certainly do not think Polaris is a crapy manufacturer or have any inclination to bash them. The are inovative and build what many top riders prefer and we cannot take that away from them. This thread is in particular about the 800 motor only,,,not polaris as a sled maker

 

[srt20]

that's true but a thread does help others to understand. What I like is that many people love the handling of the sled so much it is worth it to fix it. I have had enough time modding my sled out and I wanna ride without worrying. If Cat can give a impressive ride without the motor blowing than the info be offered up is worth while. I certainly do not think Polaris is a crapy manufacturer or have any inclination to bash them. The are inovative and build what many top riders prefer and we cannot take that away from them. This thread is in particular about the 800 motor only,,,not polaris as a sled maker

Right. I just wanted to relay that it is easy and cheap to make the poo 800 very reliable and stronger than stock.
Combine the 2 and IMO you have by FAR the best mtn sled.

 

[timo]

personally i believe it is beyond assisnine paying 10 grand for a sled that has knowingly bad pistons and then sticking thousansds of $ into your brand new sled so it don't blow up.
would you buy a vehicle with a known engine problem and then tell the dealer.."ah don't worry abut it i'll just drop a new aftermarket hemi in her"

maybe it's just me but it's hard too wrap my mind around paying big bucks for a new sled then to get it home and say.."ok time to tear it down".

 

[Skylar]

personally i believe it is beyond assisnine paying 10 grand for a sled that has knowingly bad pistons and then sticking thousansds of $ into your brand new sled so it don't blow up.
would you buy a vehicle with a known engine problem and then tell the dealer.."ah don't worry abut it i'll just drop a new aftermarket hemi in her"

maybe it's just me but it's hard too wrap my mind around paying big bucks for a new sled then to get it home and say.."ok time to tear it down".

I won't be sticking "thousands" into it. I MIGHT stick 400 bucks into it. Same as I did with my Renegade.

 

[byrn71]

I think its funny how everyone gets so hostile about this. Here is how I look at it. Buy a Polaris and you will have the best chassis and will be able to pull lines others wish they could take, but in the middle of that line you may blow up. Buy a cat and you have a dynamite engine, ok chassis and you will need to turn out a little sooner because your spindles are digging trenches in the hillside and you have a little too much baggage, but you will be able to get to the bottom to again try and climb back up to the poo, Buy a doo and you will be playing in the same lines as the cat only you will be dealing with tendonitis from the non vertical steering post, you will be light, buy a yammi and you will be pulling every straight climb in the u.p...... Can't think of too many of those in the u.p. but you also don't want to be playing with the other two or going to help the poo because you know your buddies hate pulling your tank out. The cool thing is when my poo blows up I know my buddies lenny, boondocker, brad and Dave will come to my rescue and even though we will be dragging out my sled I will still be able to have one up on them because my poo was still pulling the hardest lines. LOL. Lenny, just take the leap and get a pro.

 

[polarisrider1]

How's the green kool aid? Get a life....

No doubt.

 

[lenny]

I really do not see any hostility in this thread, I though it was going well. If I come across hostile I apologize right now because that is not my heart on this matter. If Poo guys are upset about us discussing Poo's problems they need to step back and not focus with the tunnel vision of brand loyalty.

No doubt you are right in saying the sled is the most capable but are we as the typical snowmobile enthusiast going to be able to push it's capabilities beyond our rider capabilities? Sure, I agree it's easier to go further not having to man handle the sled as hard but how far behind is an M in reality. If I get my trip out west cut short because my motor blows on my pro I'm not gonna be happy. My funds are limited and sitting back watching ain't gonna cut and I sure in **** shouldn't have to rent a sled to fill in the trip.

As far as the car comparison, a car is necessary for daily use and a sled is a pleasure sport for most of us. I do not drive my car as I drive my sled but I do get you point and I would certainly NOT buy a car knowing I would need to overhaul it.

I think if Chris Burandt, Dan Adams signed a deal with cat they would pull crazy lines and we would all be going ga ga over the M's. Bottom line IMO is our sled is way more capable than us and a good capable reliable sled is going to be the better decision FOR ME. If the wrench guys are willing to deal with the Poo's than that's the best decision. I could easily "fix" a broken Poo 800 but not thinking I should need to. I believe I can have a blast on a proven 800 163 hp M,,heck, I had a blast on the junk Mtn max! lol

 

[polarisrider1]

I really do not see any hostility in this thread, I though it was going well. If I come across hostile I apologize right now because that is not my heart on this matter. If Poo guys are upset about us discussing Poo's problems they need to step back and not focus with the tunnel vision of brand loyalty.

No doubt you are right in saying the sled is the most capable but are we as the typical snowmobile enthusiast going to be able to push it's capabilities beyond our rider capabilities? Sure, I agree it's easier to go further not having to man handle the sled as hard but how far behind is an M in reality. If I get my trip out west cut short because my motor blows on my pro I'm not gonna be happy. My funds are limited and sitting back watching ain't gonna cut and I sure in **** shouldn't have to rent a sled to fill in the trip.

As far as the car comparison, a car is necessary for daily use and a sled is a pleasure sport for most of us. I do not drive my car as I drive my sled but I do get you point and I would certainly NOT buy a car knowing I would need to overhaul it.

I think if Chris Burandt, Dan Adams signed a deal with cat they would pull crazy lines and we would all be going ga ga over the M's. Bottom line IMO is our sled is way more capable than us and a good capable reliable sled is going to be the better decision FOR ME. If the wrench guys are willing to deal with the Poo's than that's the best decision. I could easily "fix" a broken Poo 800 but not thinking I should need to. I believe I can have a blast on a proven 800 163 hp M,,heck, I had a blast on the junk Mtn max! lol

Lenny, your spending way to much time worrying about blowing a motor on a sled you do not even own. I believe the Poo needs to be broken in order to require a fix also. There is a problem with the 900's and certain year 800's but I have lost no sleep over any of it. It is just a, "step around it and not in it type of problem if you don't have a 800 of that time frame. I really feel bad for those who got the "Problem motors". Carter, Dave B. with their 800's and Wintertime and his 900 are the only ones I personally know who have had issues. I know about a hundred others with no issues. To me that makes this whole topic somewhat silly. Also the year of the motors being bashed have not been clearly stated here. How many 2012's and 2013's have had issues? How many have been tweaked by their owners? How many had Sea and Snow in them? how many had regular gas instead of Premium in them, Is ethanol in the fuel? are the sleds run excessively hot for a length of time? Not mine and none of the guys I ride with. I asked the guides at Brooks Lake who torture RMK Pro 800's and no issues not even a drive shaft gear seperation. Is this more of a trail sled issue? lots of unanswered questions. And on post 108 none have been answered.

 

[Dave_B]

You can take your Mtn Max and.... oh, nevermind

My point is, I took the risk on one and lost.
Would I buy another one? Yes
Would I spend thousands of dollars afterwards on it? No.
I guess I think in a different way. If buy some thing new. I use it. I expect it to work. If it doesn't. Why would I spend a crapload of money to make it work in a way that some people say would solve the problem? That should be the company that made the product responsible to fix it.
If I have used it beyond the warranty, it's a roll of the dice. I'm talking about any product. Not just the 800 Polaris.

For those few of you who would trailer home a brand new product and rebuild it to your liking, that is just a new owner trying to make a point that they think they know more than those who design and manufacture them for a living. Are you wrong. Can't answer.

I like to ride not wrench and I expect my product to function as advertised. If it doesn't, Later!

That's why I'm back to a 600, for now until I can afford a new one. When I can, it'll be on the trailer!

 

[Skylar]

Lenny, your spending way to much time worrying about blowing a motor on a sled you do not even own. I believe the Poo needs to be broken in order to require a fix also. There is a problem with the 900's and certain year 800's but I have lost no sleep over any of it. It is just a, "step around it and not in it type of problem if you don't have a 800 of that time frame. I really feel bad for those who got the "Problem motors". Carter, Dave B. with their 800's and Wintertime and his 900 are the only ones I personally know who have had issues. I know about a hundred others with no issues. To me that makes this whole topic somewhat silly. Also the year of the motors being bashed have not been clearly stated here. How many 2012's and 2013's have had issues? How many have been tweaked by their owners? How many had Sea and Snow in them? how many had regular gas instead of Premium in them, Is ethanol in the fuel? are the sleds run excessively hot for a length of time? Not mine and none of the guys I ride with. I asked the guides at Brooks Lake who torture RMK Pro 800's and no issues not even a drive shaft gear seperation. Is this more of a trail sled issue? lots of unanswered questions. And on post 108 none have been answered.

BAHAHAHAHA, I run Sea and Snow, AND 87 octane, with ethanol in it, no issues. Once again you open your mouth and removed all doubt how ignorant you are.

 

[Dave_B]

Skylar
You should know by now he can out ride most of us (you included).
If you haven't ridden with him, then it just shows how ignorant you are!

 

[Dave_B]

This is getting way off track!

Yes The 800 had problems. I know 1st hand FFS!

Stats from those who ride them from 11 on, not so much a problem. Are they perfect? That's freakin' funny. Nothing in life is perfect.
Are they better than the time bomb I bought?
Sure seems that way.

Can't wait till they are done perfecting this motor (relatively speaking).
By then, I'll be able to afford one and will be all over it!!!

 

[polarisrider1]

BAHAHAHAHA, I run Sea and Snow, AND 87 octane, with ethanol in it, no issues. Once again you open your mouth and removed all doubt how ignorant you are.

Gotcha to laugh and that was the point. And now I know you still jump to conclusions.

 

[Dave_B]

Gotcha to laugh and that was the point. And now I know you still jump to conclusions.

But not a cliff...

 

[ezra]

How's the green kool aid? Get a life....

the green kool aid is tasty .
I have had the red yellow and blue kool aid all have had there good parts and a few have had allot of costly bad.in fact I owned a poo last yr granted it was a 08 600 rmk got it in a pinch.it really made me miss my cat .not that the flex chasi option was not entertaining I was glad to see it go. it is still running great .I will not be buying anything newer than a 11M have ridden the new one still like my sled better in the deep not so much on the trail My M sucks ars on the trail. I have spent time on the assault pro U could not pay me to take a vacation on one.the RMK is nice lays over nice climes up on top fast but not the leaps and bounds ahead of a old school M .I have seen a few rollers on SW not sure why these guys have rollers with the bullet proof 800 but I could see buying one and shoehorn a 03 1010 motor I have in the shop in her that would be a fun ride a 200+hp pro with out the spray.
but did I say any thing in the statement u were responding to that is not true? did not think so

 

[cooksend]

Dang, I ran out of popcorn! Keep it going guys I look forward to reading this every morning. The start to my day just wouldn't be the same without it...

 

[polarisrider1]

Dang, I ran out of popcorn! Keep it going guys I look forward to reading this every morning. The start to my day just wouldn't be the same without it...

Amazing what happens around here when we are between seasons. More amazing is how easy it is to fuel such fires! lol. We wore out the helmet law and Oil threads, Only can disuss Skylars shortness so far. I do have a stock pile of Arctic Cat video meltdowns, Yammi stuck pig videos and recalls we could use?? also Snowmobile fanatics.com has a whole section of cat jokes we could regurgitate. The summer still can be fun!

 

[Skylar]

Skylar
You should know by now he can out ride most of us (you included).
If you haven't ridden with him, then it just shows how ignorant you are!

Don't really care how well he rides, that has nothing to do with this conversation does it? I don't think he needs you to hold his hand though.

Wayne, you make me laugh.

 

[Woodtic]

I'm saving all of Lenny's mtn max bashing. This should help me get a better price,when I buy project mtn max.Bash away Lenny .

 

[lenny]

You can take your Mtn Max and.... oh, nevermind

My point is, I took the risk on one and lost.
Would I buy another one? Yes
Would I spend thousands of dollars afterwards on it? No.
I guess I think in a different way. If buy some thing new. I use it. I expect it to work. If it doesn't. Why would I spend a crapload of money to make it work in a way that some people say would solve the problem? That should be the company that made the product responsible to fix it.
If I have used it beyond the warranty, it's a roll of the dice. I'm talking about any product. Not just the 800 Polaris.

For those few of you who would trailer home a brand new product and rebuild it to your liking, that is just a new owner trying to make a point that they think they know more than those who design and manufacture them for a living. Are you wrong. Can't answer.

I like to ride not wrench and I expect my product to function as advertised. If it doesn't, Later!

That's why I'm back to a 600, for now until I can afford a new one. When I can, it'll be on the trailer!

Davey Davey Davey, where'd that come from? Are you ticked about this discussion? This is only a discussion but why are people being threatened about talking about a problem. All we're trying to do is shed a little light on the topic.

Wayne, I am interested in buying one of these Poo 800's so taking a serious look at peoples experiences is a good thing to do, don't try an make it a bad thing,,,,bud!

Dave, so you believe poo has no problems with the 800's and it's all the riders fault for some reason, fuel, break-in, riding to hard,,,bla bla bla. You must believe that the guys who have repaired therr motor with these "fix kits" have just dreamed up the problem and it just went away with new and better pistons. I have a 94 dodge cummings truck with the original trans and often people ask me how many trans has it had and I tell them it is still the original and their shocked. Dodge is known for trans issues in those older years but I like the truck and take the risk as I may do with a Poo. Whatever works for each individual is key here and no one is wrong for the decision they make if they make it informed,,and that has been my intentions for posting on this thread. By the way,,remember,,the Mtn Max was the sled that filled your helmet with brown snow,,and it can happen again!