X2 exactly can't get the stuff or selling minimum amounts to get everyone thru the cold snap. Some suppliers have shut the doors due to shortage. If everyone conserves there will be more LP to sell to masses. Not real difficult concept to understand! I told my supplier I have 250 gallons I'll conserve... Yes SUCKS!!... but right thing to do for others.
Propane prices are sky high!
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X2 exactly can't get the stuff or selling minimum amounts to get everyone thru the cold snap. Some suppliers have shut the doors due to shortage. If everyone conserves there will be more LP to sell to masses. Not real difficult concept to understand! I told my supplier I have 250 gallons I'll conserve... Yes SUCKS!!... but right thing to do for others.
chevytaHOE5674
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Outdoor wood boiler is the best money I ever spent. After 12 years its still ticking and saving me money everyday. Heat is set at 72 and I haven't had to buy propane in a couple of years (have an LP cook stove).
X2. Plus we can burn wet wood in them. I have 15 acres (probably a few hundred cord) of potential firewood growing in my front/back yards. Not that I really want to cut a single one of them down, but nice to know there is ALWAYS backup!
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lenny
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you assume you know everybody's financial situation,,right? Things change for people and often it's unforeseen. A declining economy, a medical emergency, a loss of a job,etc,,, can contribute to financial instability. For you to be annoyed or say suck it up is a ignorant thing to say. I know a guy who owns 6 rental properties and all run on propane. We have bookings and when propane more than doubles in a few days it is disaster. Fuel prices, garbage disposal, snow removal and food has all risen and now propane doubles. The problem with your thinking is that it is narrow. i understand your point and you are correct for a narrow margin of people but for many here in the UP where the household income is way below city folk, this spike will hurt. I encourage you to look at it in a more broader sense and than you may see what many experience.
Many people use propane as a secondary heat source and use smaller amounts and do not want to have a butt load of money sitting in a tank when they have a lower income to begin with. For us to get a contract we have to be on a "keep full" program. Getting over the hump of filling the tank can be difficult especially when you have a 1000 gallon tank and can dump in 850 gallons costing over 2 grand. As prices of everything increase it does make it harder to own secondary properties but to say we shouldn't own them is pushing it.
Being concerned or complaining about propane more than doubling in price is reasonable. i am glad you are fortunate enough for it to not be a problem but don't fool your self because most my adult life I was fortunate enough to do anything I wanted and didn't worry about this sort of thing but life changes and I hope you don't experience hardship.
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All about supply and demand - The demand is there , the supply is not , like others have stated
I would love to read the comments when gasoline reaches $5.00 a gallon during the winter months for just 87 octane , $6.00 for 91 octane , where it effects EVERYONE who loves this sport
I would love to read the comments when gasoline reaches $5.00 a gallon during the winter months for just 87 octane , $6.00 for 91 octane , where it effects EVERYONE who loves this sport
anonomoose
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What is cornfusing me, is that you have been a member since 2009 but have only participated in this mindless dribble conversations over the broader part of this board TWEEEEELVE TIMES. How is that even possible? Does this possibly mean that you have a life outside of this board somewhere....well, do yah? Dah should really pry that poor aminal off'n there....cause it ain't gunna sell many dataway?
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See what happens if you own one of these stoves and your pet cat or dog crawls up there to get warm and the thing kicks on....dats why I ain't gett'n one.
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X2 You are right on AGAIN!!!! Especially the part of even being able to have it delievered....MEATHEAD
srt20
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My in laws have a pellet stove. The tops aren't hot enough to burn. It might get warm, but not instantly. If by chance the pet was up there and it kicked on and started to get warm, the pet would/should jump off. Sometimes/most times, animals have more common sense than most humans.
I actually love the heat from their pellet stove. You can really get the place cooking with one. But I am spoiled, I live in country with natural gas. Put an air filter in every few months and done. I grew up with my parents having an indoor woodburner. PIA cutting splitting and moving wood, but they had propane. I guess I never realized how expensive propane is. If I was on propane I would already have a pellet or wood burner.
X2 totally out of control right now the price the local guys are paying is ridiculous as well.
hemi_newman
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Thank u sir! Duffy is a good man. Walker is releasing money already for propane costs
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lenny
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I have 2 pellet stoves, one in my primary residency and the other in the rental. My primary is 1350 sq ft and a 2 story, so it's tall with a small footprint. I could barely heat it effectively on the really cold days but I bought the stove from a smaller place so I knew it would struggle to keep up on the really cold days but none the less I would burn a 40 lb bag a day at $4.50 a bag totaling $140 a month which is reasonable but than there is some electric you would need to add which may be $15-20 a month.
Just a few days ago I took the pellet stove out and put the wood stove back in and will not go back from here. Wood is always warm and cheapest fuel to heat with but it's not for everyone.
propane here is $5.80 as of last Thursday, not sure if it changed today.
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I read that the state of MI suspended the hours of service limits for truckers hauling propane. May be of little help, but there are things that can be done. Since a major propane pipeline has been shut down, alternate forms of transportation must be used. Government could ease restrictions and put priority status on barge and rail traffic. Taxes on propane could be temp. suspended. Attorney General could investigate possible price rigging/contract violations. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Complaining in this forum won't change a thing, call/write/e-mail your congressmen/governor. It won't cost you a penny but might help save one?
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If this cold spell doesn't end soon I will have to let my Garage go cold. The Wood Pile is looking smaller than I have seen it in years and I should have had plenty of dry Wood to last until April. Now I will have to burn November cut Wood or turn on the Natural Gas Furnace around 3/1.
I wonder what will happen to the Gas price when everyone like myself that heats with Wood, runs out and goes back to Gas to finish out the Winter. So far this winter I have used about 30% more Wood than a normal year.
I wonder what will happen to the Gas price when everyone like myself that heats with Wood, runs out and goes back to Gas to finish out the Winter. So far this winter I have used about 30% more Wood than a normal year.
These are exactly the people I've been thinking of lately. How long can you eat the increased cost of heating before you have to pass it on to the consumer/patron. Motels have different rates for holidays/weekends/weekdays, etc. I would think the rest of you resort/bar/restaraunt owners will have to do something similar to compensate for your increased heating expense.
I suppose there is a fine line between losing customers because of increasing your prices and eating your expenses and trying to stay in business.
Good Luck To You All!