POLARISDAN
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You know, for the amount of money spent on these things, they should be working right! What's next? Blowing motors at 5000 miles??
what..u think its a poo 800?
You know, for the amount of money spent on these things, they should be working right! What's next? Blowing motors at 5000 miles??
what..u think its a poo 800?
Arctic Cat did not deliver on their promise to Yamaha...and Yamaha should have known better. Cat quality is at the bottom of the list because of the culture at Cat - a culture of poor quality cannot be changed in a year or with force from Yamaha. This Viper is mostly all Cat..Cat designed chassis, Cat tuned the EFI, Cat tuned the suspension, and Cat sourced and assembled the sleds, and Cat is carrying the warranty reserve...Yamaha did make some changes...but very few. Cat has poor quality control...
Honestly what did everyone expect? Don't see this relationship lasting much longer...
your dreaming I've got 40 bucks into my oil change and I won't do it again until the end of next season 6000 miles from nowNailed it!! Not sure why anyone would want a low-quality A/C with a great motor? Without A/C contribution I might give it a look...might being the operative. But not at 12 G's - these guys are totally crazy.
There was too much hype with this sled and it didn't have a chance to live up to it. And Yam certainly didn't want to hear any negatives prior to the season...guys got kicked off TY for voicing negatives about it.
And this argument about "gas and go"? I started thinking about that one day after another $150 oil change receipt, and it occurred to me you can buy about 4 gallons of VES Gold for that price and ride for about 8-9 years at my average MPY. LOL (yeah it is seriously laughable)
Nailed it!! Not sure why anyone would want a low-quality A/C with a great motor? Without the A/C contribution I might give it a look...might being the operative. But not at 12 G's - these guys are totally crazy.
There was too much hype with this sled and it didn't have a chance to live up to it. And Yam certainly didn't want to hear any negatives prior to the season...guys got kicked off TY for voicing negatives about it.
And this argument about "gas and go"? I started thinking about that one day after another $150 oil change receipt, and it occurred to me you can buy about 4 gallons of VES Gold for that price and ride for about 8-9 years at my average MPY. LOL (yeah it is seriously laughable)
xsledder,
it is not a hard sled to maintenance. I guess you may hate it the first time but it really isn't bad at all. Much easier than the Phazer and the oil filter is very easy to get to. Hope this helped answer you questions.
I find it ironic that your talking about A/C supposed low quality when your handle is the same name as one of the worst Poo's. (That's because I consider the Cutlass to be the worst Poo ever made.)
Yeah because you can DO IT YOURSELF halfw$! - most can't. 90% take their Yam's in for oil changes. Try finding a dealer to do it for $40 -in YOUR dreams dude. I'm not a mechanic but I could do it if I wanted to spend 3 hrs and get my BP sky high.
Nailed it!! Not sure why anyone would want a low-quality A/C with a great motor? Without the A/C contribution I might give it a look...might being the operative. But not at 12 G's - these guys are totally crazy.
There was too much hype with this sled and it didn't have a chance to live up to it. And Yam certainly didn't want to hear any negatives prior to the season...guys got kicked off TY for voicing negatives about it.
And this argument about "gas and go"? I started thinking about that one day after another $150 oil change receipt, and it occurred to me you can buy about 4 gallons of VES Gold for that price and ride for about 8-9 years at my average MPY. LOL (yeah it is seriously laughable)
Kip - I'm not going to get into a debate with you but there's lots of Yam owners who would vehemently disagree with your statement about how well Yam stands behind their sleds. Handwarmer issues year after year, broken suspension parts year after year, the list goes on. They did NOTHING for those owners.
As far as Yamaha taking care of their customers, I can only comment on my experience. I had cracked Y pipes on my Apex and Yamaha replaced the Y pipes and exhaust donuts to the tune of about $900.00. Was covered as well as my RA dial adjust cable that was ripped off by ice. This would have been considered wear and tear items to other manufacturers. They warranty and cover about everything. Even gave me all new bogey wheels and new updated handled bars for better heat. Ive owned units from all 4 companies and Yamaha has been ( in my experience) hands down the best.They look to afford coverage, not deny it. Ive also had better experience with Yamaha dealers in general. In my 25 years of riding,on several different units, this has been my experience. Although a distant 2nd IMO, Cat has taken care of some issues I had on a couple different ZRT 800's back in the day.
wheels...and hand warmers?? yeah that was annoying...but not catastrophic....I bought new wheels and put them in..added yamaheater hand warmers...problem solved....the front W arm was weak the first couple seasons on the vector's and apexes...they beefed it up in later seasons...Should we talk about ski-doo??? My 03 rev...pistons and rings...or my 99 HO with the bad stator (that BOMBI told me to get bent over..this on a sled with 500 miles on it)??...They all have their little issues.
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Yep...I had a crack in mine Kip..got yamaha to warranty it....after 4 seasons.
groomerdriver,
Yes those issues were annoying for sure. The suspension components that did break were a covered item. All in all the warmer issues were a let down for sure, however, they do a fine job for the most part of standing behind their product, certainly much better than the competition, I guess that was my point or at least that's how I meant it to be.
Well...I think it is relavent...a good dealer can solve a lot of little issues, and change your prespective on a brand...I have used yamaha warranty twice in the past 20 years...they always came through for me...I find the "issues" you brought to be small...I had engine issues with my ski-doos...they covered one...and refused the other...they lost me as a customer over it. IMO wheels and hand warmers...are small issues..compared to engine issues. I have never gotten mad, and quit riding brand "A" because of wheel or handwarmer issues...engine issues..not taken care of...YEP!! I think cat is good too...3 of myn buddies bought 03 firecats when they came out...2 of them blew up at least twice...and cat covered em...both times.