Looking to get into boondocking?

opt8low

Member
Jeez we rode all this last weekend north of the bridge and didn't run into tracks anywhere. Didn't even see any other riders. Everyone is riding back-country at home I guess.

Maybe we need to put together a back-country ride north of the bridge to get that area tracked up. We tried but just couldn't get tracks on everything. Just to many areas to ride......

opt8low
 

Firecatguy

New member
It is so tracked up in the Twin Lakes area, I am seriously considering giving up boondocking, either that or I need to find a different area, it was very discouraging this past weekend. Yea, I was able to find stuff that did not have any tracks, but really had to dig for it. And I am not just saying this to discourge people from the area. It was really quite depressing. :(

coming off a west trip just a few weeks ago does not help at all......
 

xcsp01

New member
You can do this alone, but you better be in good shape! You can die out there if you get lost, or you get so stuck you work too hard to get out.

I suggest that you find others who have done this and take it slow....working up to more and more difficult.

Rule 1:

Be prepared....shovel, rope, winch (if you ride yamaha...;)) food, matches, the works....things happen and you need to plan ahead not for the if....but for the inevitable.

Rule 2:

Novices should NEVER go alone....take others who can help get you unstuck or when the sled decides to self destruct.

Rule 3:

Just because you went over that hill and down thru the meadow last year doesn't mean you can do it under THESE SNOW CONDITIONS. Snow that is set up by means of freezing and thawing and re-freezing, is much easier to go over and thru than 3 feet of fresh powder that has no bottom.

Rule 4:

Momentum is your friend.....once you let off the throttle...it is all over. BUT....when you KNOW that you are going to get stuck....don't stay on the throttle and dig in deeper...it just makes for less going and more digging. Eventually you will learn your sleds capabilities, and your own abilities and when that day comes, you will be able to call yourself a boondocker.

There is nothing else like it.


well put sir!

me and a few buddies have got into off trail more and more over the past 2-3 years. Its the best riding, and most fun ive had. yes you risk the chance of more machine damage sometimes(hidden stumps and rocks) but usually thats only in early season conditions before the snow has compacted. we always ride together or in the same area. a few of us has hand held gps' we all have a back pack with some essentials, some snacks, fluids, lighter/matches body blanket misc. tools ect. and like boondocker said above, momentum is your friend and learn when your not going to make it, to start to turn out. once your ability is improved most of the time turning out results in now digging. but for the first few times its less digging and possibly an easy rollover to get out of it.


we rode some great spots this past weekend. untracked. really good snow. best ride of the year thus far!!
 

m8man

Moderator
10 years ago you could ride anytime anywhere and people were scarce at best. Now you go out and see a ton of tracks.

Simply put - more sleds on the same amount of land equals less powder. I can say that 20 years ago I don't ever think I ever saw a "private property" sign or the like. You could ride all day and we actually knew most people's places around here and had fun.

People tend to keep their best places in a very small circle.

m8man
 

m8man

Moderator
woops forgot to add this above, the best way to get out and experience an area is to go with someone who knows it.. even a guide service is best.

You may have more fun with a guide and get in less trouble.

m8man
 

ezra

Well-known member
a guide service is best.

You may have more fun with a guide and get in less trouble.

m8man

you will have a way better time if you dont know your way around most guids are local boys who have been riding there from the time they could reach the bars.they know every one and prob have ok to ride there land.know the narrow dead ends and the ones that a even a newby can turn around in.and just watching a guy who knows how to ride very very well can be inspiring and a bit deflating at the same time lol.
 

m8man

Moderator
I've been riding the Keweenaw since I could reach the bars, some 30 yrs ago

I started with my dad many years ago. Some of my fondest memories were riding with my dad, on his sled when I was young. I could ride in front, the it was soooo scary when I had to ride behind him cuz I couldn't see. Then off to my own.

later

m8man
 

felonious_rider

New member
Like Boooooooondocker says!

Do all of what he said and make sure your in some type of good physical condition or it won't be as much fun as you think it is. I am on my 4 fourth season and I love it! I just got back from Mass/Greenland and the snow was great. Spent some time in east and south of Mass, 14 mile point, Twin Lakes, Bluff, etc. Thanks to Kip for having a new primary in stock for my Poo and all the backcountry/Boondocking with the Johnson's! Can wait for next month!
 

snoluver1

Active member
I'm gona petition the big four to stop making mountain sleds. A 119" x .080" carbed 440 making 30 horse with boggie wheels and leaf springs, thats the ticket. Then maybe I could have my woods back again.:( You wana learn how to boondock, take the above mentioned machine and make it dance through three feet of powder. Thats how you learn to boondock!:)
 

ill marty

New member
You hit the nail on the head. I started 11 years ago on my old kawasaki invader. That sled needed a 144 track . I could weave in and out of trees with ease. They need to lighten the sleds abit.
 

ezra

Well-known member
when I was a kid there was no such thing as a groomer heck I spent alot of time as a boy out in the woods making trails in shurbern co MN the club had like 20 people and they got alot of trails in a very short time.all but 20 mi of the old 70s trails are still open.think it is a hard ride on a biz weekend in the up do it with bogie wheels and a cleat track on a so called trail that has never seen a groomer
 

snoluver1

Active member
And then try it after you spit a cleat off the track, slide into a stump sideways, snap the ski leg off, and while you are riding home on one ski, break your throttle cable, so now your working the butterfly with one hand too! Ahh--the good old days!!

Just read a great line in On Snow Magazine, " Reaching across and gently nudging the high speed idle jet of a diaphragm Walbro carburetor as you jostle across a frozen lake, still gaining lengths on your buddy, was and still is a skill held in high regard"
 

scottd

New member
We used to call it "breaking trail" before "boondocking" was the cool new thing to do. LOL.

You brought a smile to my face snoluver1. Haven't heard (or dare I say, said) "breaking trail" in a LONG time but you hit the nail on the head!!!
 

indy_500

Well-known member
Oh yeah, or you would knock snow off the pines after a fresh snowfall and suck that right into the carb! Good times!:D

I got a pic somewhere of a sled from the snowmobile hall of fame in st. germain with the carbs sittin right there on the front of the seat, it blew my mind!
 
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