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srt20
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Luck was definitely NOT on his A game last night. But he has a good head on his shoulders and is a leader. That's what seperates him from QB like Cutler. Not to mention he doesn't get hurt every time someone pushes him down, like Cutler does.
JMO but the problem is NOT Trestman. Cutler is a terrible leader, Marshall likes playing the blame game, Allen hasn't done much. The Bears have Forte and that's it.
Looks to me like you guys have a GM problem.
momoney2123
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that makes zero sense. Say what u want about cutler but saying he gets hurt easy is just ignorant to any kind of NFL intelligence. Some of the hits he has taken even this year and gotten back up is incredible. 49er game and atlanta game he got pummeled. And going back even farther he was sacked more than anyone.
A GREAT coach can disguise a players flaws. When jay cutler is taught in the west coast offense to check down when he sees 3 deep and over the top coverage, then thats coaching. D coordinators are playing 3 deep and making trestman figure out a way to beat it. Dink and dunk is his answer. Instead of jamming it down the teams throat with forte, forcing more poeple in the box and torching them deep with the big weapons and strong arm.When u hear people like kyle long say jay cutler is who they follow. I believe them.
Emery has drafted some darn good players and filled a very talented roster.
At this point in time, trestman is under the gun in my opinion.
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momoney2123
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Jay cutler is mistake prone. His strength is making big plays others cant. Throws the deep ball very well. So asking jay cutler to constantly sustain 12-14 play drives without RUNNING THE BALL is dumb and asking for trouble. If the bears dont run the ball more than they pass this week it will confirm this. Packers have the worst run D in nfl and cant stop a nose bleed. Our best player all year has been matt forte. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to see the winning formula.
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momoney2123
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They are actually talking as we speak on espn radio about how tuff he has been and how hard he has worked, but for some reason it hasnt worked.
I think you answered your own question. Teams are allowing Forte to get his yards and small yard catches and taking away the big plays. Every defense understands that if they make the Bears try to sustain a long drive they will turn the ball over or make mistakes. Cutler is not a long drive type of person, he makes too many mistakes ( as have the rest of the offense). Forte is a very good back but hes not an elite back who can really break a lot of tackles. His longest run of the year is only 19 yards. So for defenses, let Forte get his but slow down the receivers and guess what, you have a 3-5 team.
momoney2123
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They dont run the ball tho, hardly at all, if they did with success they would force teams to abandon the soft coverage looks. Teams play 3 deep and cutler checks down to forte alot. Also calling plays where cutler sits in the pocket. Another strength of his is rolling out and throwing on the run. Something they have done very little this year. It just has seemed trestman is letting the defenses bait cutler into his weaknesses. Instead of using cutler to his strengths. thats what good coaching does. Cutler isnt perfect by any means, but i just have hated how he has been used thus far. He is a gunslinger, so letting him sling it 45 freaking times a game, can and will backfire. He thinks he can make everyplay. Even when 3 deep coverage doubles marshall or jeffrey and he decides not to check it down. Rolling out and running the ball is cutlers best friend. Look what it has done to romo's play. Him and cutler are very similiar IMO.
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I agree with ya on running the ball. It seems that the Bears want to throw the ball to set up the run, instead of running the ball to set up the pass. Every time they get behind, even by marginal amounts they start slinging the ball. And I agree 100%, trestman is allowing defenses to dictate the play of Cutler and our offense. The play calling has been poor, at best. This team has WAY too much money and talent on offense for this type of production.
momoney2123
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we should see a whole new game plan I would think. If they pass the snot out of the ball in the pocket, im just gona shake my head, win or lose. Weather could be a factor. Cold and snow possible. That should help the bears limit rodgers throwing the ball IMO. Bears +7 and under 53.5.
POLARISDAN
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anybody(including me) that wastes another minute on this team is an idiot..if it wasnt sun night there is no way i would watch..like patriots game..i went golfing..good for me when i came in at 9..it was 17 7..by the time we left the bar to contiunue it was like 35 7 or some bs...team is a joke...i am only watching for the laugh factor
LOLmomoney2123
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Yup that was embaressing. I was definitely wrong about cutler and the bears.thought they were better than that. Future doesnt look good for bears. Guess ill be rooting for the other blue and orange. Bears owner needs to be head hunting. Big time.
POLARISDAN
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guess not
Finally 1 ranking has Da Bears dead last 31. LOL
http://www.chicagobears.com/news/ar...-Week-11/72ca3593-c014-4189-b557-3e805e500ade
http://www.chicagobears.com/news/ar...-Week-11/72ca3593-c014-4189-b557-3e805e500ade
Ummmm, there are 32 teams. Always have to remember the consistent losers of the NFL, the Raiders!
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I think momoney meant to keep the Pack under 53.5, it almost happened!
Besides the play on the field, the Bears management is looking extremely bad right now. The press conferences with Trestman and Emery are terrible and embarrassing. Deciding not to fire anyone will just keep the mess going for longer, did they not see what has happened the last two weeks. Shake it up and start the process of moving on from this. It wont be easy but why wait?
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I think momoney meant to keep the Pack under 53.5, it almost happened!
Besides the play on the field, the Bears management is looking extremely bad right now. The press conferences with Trestman and Emery are terrible and embarrassing. Deciding not to fire anyone will just keep the mess going for longer, did they not see what has happened the last two weeks. Shake it up and start the process of moving on from this. It wont be easy but why wait?
I heard GSH gravestone moved on Sunday night ..lol.. Yep agree Trestman was a mistake fire his butt & move on not doing so just delays what has to happen. The resulting team play can't be worse than we have seen & Da Bears could get a super draft choice & draft a stud QB. Time to rebuild... this season is over. If the Vikings smoke the Bears on Sunday Trestman must go...What is the point of keeping him now?????
good luck finding a "great" QB in this upcoming draft, looks kind of sparse.
I wouldn't touch Jameis Winston with a ten foot pole.
Mariotta from Oregon maybe? Raiders, Bucaneers and a couple other teams may beat you to the punch. Raiders got Carr and he actually don't look to bad.
I wouldn't touch Jameis Winston with a ten foot pole.
Mariotta from Oregon maybe? Raiders, Bucaneers and a couple other teams may beat you to the punch. Raiders got Carr and he actually don't look to bad.