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[momoney2123]

ya know anyone can say "yah but they beat sanchez" blah blah. Sanchez didn't give up 21 points if the first quarter. It wouldn't of mattered if foles, sanchez, or jaws was QB'ing; when the packers hit a team so quick offensively and they have 21 points in the first quarter it takes the opponent completely out of any game plan they envisioned in having.
on top of the fact we don't get penalized, or turn the ball over these games are basically over by half.
another game over by half will be this week vs the vikes before the real test when the pats come to lambeau.

I think ur taking the packers play for granted. Its not often in the nfl blowouts happen. Dont be suprised when the packers are on the other end of one like a few weeks ago vs saints. Just remember the all mighty packers are one injury away from hero to zero. Things can change real quick. Which makes the NFL great.

 

[whitedust]

I think ur taking the packers play for granted. Its not often in the nfl blowouts happen. Dont be suprised when the packers are on the other end of one like a few weeks ago vs saints. Just remember the all mighty packers are one injury away from hero to zero. Things can change real quick. Which makes the NFL great.

you mean you don't think Matt Flynn can take the Pack to the SB??lol

 

[momoney2123]

you mean you don't think Matt Flynn can take the Pack to the SB??lol

haha exactly. The packers fans are already counting the chickens. Woah woah....dont work like that in NFL. Reality is the worse team can beat the best team in this league. Happens all the time.

 

[timo]

Matt Flynn??
We got Scott Tolizien former Wis. Badger were all set!
If Bruce Ariens can say will a straight face Drew Stanton can win the Super Bowl, I'll try to say with a straight face Scott Tolzien can too!

you mean you don't think Matt Flynn can take the Pack to the SB??lol

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if you guys would re-read one of my first posts from yesterday I clearly state "barring injury" this team is Super Bowl bound. After how injury riddled we've been since 2010 it would be about time if we could get a little luck in that dept.

 

[srt20]

Well I truely believe the packers are much better set at backup QB this year than last year, there is IMO no way the pack even make it to the SB if Rodgers goes down. The entire NFL knows what they have to do to totally disrupt Rodgers game. But the fact is, he is just to good. To smart, to mobile, and by far the most accurate passer in the league while on the run. Flynn and Tolzien aren't even close. I'm not saying they are bad or good QBs, but not in the same league as Rodgers. In fact, IMO, totally disregarding the entire teams, straight up QB for QB talent and nothing more, right now no other QB in the league is in Rodgers area. Sure some might have better stats, but they also have better teams around them too. Look at what has happened to Peyton this year. Sure he is good like always, but look at the offense AND the defense he has.

If Rodgers goes down, no doubt in my mind the Pack will be a better team than last year without him. But without him they are around a .500 team IMO.

Before any fellow packer fans get mad at me for stating this, just remember, a .500 team is still better than the Bears are, and they even have more talent on offense than the Pack does.

BTW, I'm not saying the pack is going to the SB with or without Rodgers. I believe the teams that are the hottest in the playoffs go to the SB. I just hope the pack stays hot the rest of the year. I believe they have the leadership to stay hot.

 

[snowdance]

haha exactly. The packers fans are already counting the chickens. Woah woah....dont work like that in NFL. Reality is the worse team can beat the best team in this league. Happens all the time.

momoney, you crack me up. I'm not looking to get in a pissing match with you, but way earlier in this thread you kept defending Da Bears and Cutler with nothing to back it up, but hope IMO. But now Packer fans are excited as they should be about the potential for a Super Bowl run and you keep trying to find a way to shoot it down regardless. Yes, anything can happen, but right now The Packers are dismantling teams and have gained national attention in doing so. They are the buzz right now and rightfully so! Stats and many records falling are the proof of them being legit...

 

[timo]

momoney, you crack me up. I'm not looking to get in a pissing match with you, but way earlier in this thread you kept defending Da Bears and Cutler with nothing to back it up, but hope IMO. But now Packer fans are excited as they should be about the potential for a Super Bowl run and you keep trying to find a way to shoot it down regardless. Yes, anything can happen, but right now The Packers are dismantling teams and have gained national attention in doing so. They are the buzz right now and rightfully so! Stats and many records falling are the proof of them being legit...

Thank you snow dance.
#amen

 

[momoney2123]

momoney, you crack me up. I'm not looking to get in a pissing match with you, but way earlier in this thread you kept defending Da Bears and Cutler with nothing to back it up, but hope IMO. But now Packer fans are excited as they should be about the potential for a Super Bowl run and you keep trying to find a way to shoot it down regardless. Yes, anything can happen, but right now The Packers are dismantling teams and have gained national attention in doing so. They are the buzz right now and rightfully so! Stats and many records falling are the proof of them being legit...

There was plenty to back up my points about cutler and the bears. And i was one of many who thought the same thing. They both let all bears fans down and arent very good, i know. unfortunately the locker room and coaching staff fell apart. And yes the packers are playin as well as anyone in NFC right now, BUT my whole point was things change quick. Week 1-4 the seahawks are unbeatable and now....,then bengals are unbeatable and now,... then broncos are unbeatable....and now, then pats suck and now, then dallas in unbeatable......now packers are unbeatable....lets see what happens. The defense has played better but I don't buy it until they string it together for more than 2 games. Id be honest if i was forced to bet on the team representing the NFC right NOW, i would have to take packers. But that opinion can change very fast, just like my opinion of the bears . I just dont know if the pack have the trench play to win in cold weather games, and it also slows down there biggest strength of throwing the ball. Honestly i think they have a better chance of beating arizona in arizona vs in GB. Arizona is built for a cold weather game.

 

[whitedust]

If AZ gets off to slow start & Rogers is hot forget it game over BUT if Rogers has rushers hanging all over him it will be a different outcome. Agree still along way to go until play offs 1 game at a time keep Rogers in piece & could get interesting for Pack but remember play offs are sudden death games.

 

[srt20]

So in your opinion the packers aren't a good cold weather team??? Eddie Lacy, and a offensive line that has been playing very well. Not to mention a QB that has excelled in any weather eniviroment he has played in.

And AZ, a team that plays in a weather conditioned dome. With an unproven QB, no clear standout WR, a small and shifty RB.

Momoney, do you even watch any football games other than the Bears games?? I guess it wouldn't be the first time you were wrong about football teams this year.....lol

 

[momoney2123]

So in your opinion the packers aren't a good cold weather team??? Eddie Lacy, and a offensive line that has been playing very well. Not to mention a QB that has excelled in any weather eniviroment he has played in.

And AZ, a team that plays in a weather conditioned dome. With an unproven QB, no clear standout WR, a small and shifty RB.

Momoney, do you even watch any football games other than the Bears games?? I guess it wouldn't be the first time you were wrong about football teams this year.....lol

Yea, the packers are NOT built for cold weather. Rodgers is good yea, hes not the problem lol. Dont be mad cause th pack trench play is below average. They have been better lately. Dline struggles against the run and they havent proved they can run against LEGIT dline like arizona. green bay cant beat the nfc west becuase of that formula. Last year was the same with san fran, a great Dline and o line. Same when they lost to new york. Great d line and o line. Seattle has embaressed them great d line and o line. DO u watch football?

 

[snowdance]

I just dont know if the pack have the trench play to win in cold weather games....Arizona is built for a cold weather game.

With that logic Da Bears are going to the Superbowl!!!

 

[durphee]

You have to be careful with the old "cold weather" and throwing the ball issue. If you look at Rodgers game splits over the last several years, his typical best month, depending on the year, has been October and November. But in several years, inlcuding this one, he has performed BETTER in cold weather than warm weather. Over his career Aaron Rodgers is at his best in the cold. Rodgers' passer rating is nearly 12 points higher in cold weather than it is when the weather is warmer than 40 degrees.

 

[srt20]

Yea, the packers are NOT built for cold weather. Rodgers is good yea, hes not the problem lol. Dont be mad cause th pack trench play is below average. They have been better lately. Dline struggles against the run and they havent proved they can run against LEGIT dline like arizona. green bay cant beat the nfc west becuase of that formula. Last year was the same with san fran, a great Dline and o line. Same when they lost to new york. Great d line and o line. Seattle has embaressed them great d line and o line. DO u watch football?

I don't know why you are even talking about a possible AZ game. That's along ways down the road. Both teams have to get there first.
Have you ever watched a football game that featured a team that used the 3-4 defense?? Apparently you don't understand how it works. You should google it. It might help you understand football a little better.
Football is a game of "where are we headed, not what have we done" The Seattle game means almost nothing now. The pack got beat up. They learned a lesson and are "headed" in a better direction. Meanwhile the Seahawks obviously haven't learned anything and look at where they are headed.

The packers have a huge game this week. They need to win against the Vikings in order to have a chance at a div title. But assuming( yes I know, bad idea) they do win, the run game will have a few big tests against buffalo and Detroit. We will find out where this team stands in the next month or so.

December is the time when the winners seperate themselves from the losers.


Now maybe you understand football a little better and won't make such asinine predictions like you have in the past; ie your SB champion Bears.....lol

 

[momoney2123]

With that logic Da Bears are going to the Superbowl!!!

Arizona plays great D and can run the ball, they dont make mistakes aka a good cold weather team. Just because they play in AZ doesnt mean they cant play in the cold. kinda like san fran last few years they play in warm all year but beat cold weather teams. You guys do know that come january in Green bay the weather can be nasty, and if it is, the strength of the packers could be nulified. These are If's. Right now pack look like the best team. See what happens

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I don't know why you are even talking about a possible AZ game. That's along ways down the road. Both teams have to get there first.
Have you ever watched a football game that featured a team that used the 3-4 defense?? Apparently you don't understand how it works. You should google it. It might help you understand football a little better.
Football is a game of "where are we headed, not what have we done" The Seattle game means almost nothing now. The pack got beat up. They learned a lesson and are "headed" in a better direction. Meanwhile the Seahawks obviously haven't learned anything and look at where they are headed.

The packers have a huge game this week. They need to win against the Vikings in order to have a chance at a div title. But assuming( yes I know, bad idea) they do win, the run game will have a few big tests against buffalo and Detroit. We will find out where this team stands in the next month or so.

December is the time when the winners seperate themselves from the losers.


Now maybe you understand football a little better and won't make such asinine predictions like you have in the past; ie your SB champion Bears.....lol

Never said bears WERE going to be SB champs, ever. Thats putting words in my mouth. the pack 3-4 defense has been terrible for 3 years straight, they look good in the past 2 games and now u wana crown them an all NFL defense. They have not proven they can beat trench play teams like seattle, san fran of the past, which is this years arizona. I agree long ways to go and yes come christmas much better feel of who will play who and who has an advantage.

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You have to be careful with the old "cold weather" and throwing the ball issue. If you look at Rodgers game splits over the last several years, his typical best month, depending on the year, has been October and November. But in several years, inlcuding this one, he has performed BETTER in cold weather than warm weather. Over his career Aaron Rodgers is at his best in the cold. Rodgers' passer rating is nearly 12 points higher in cold weather than it is when the weather is warmer than 40 degrees.

He is good all the time. We all agree on that. But if you cant stop the run or run the ball, history proves those teams lose in the playoffs no matter how good the QB plays. Its why they lost when they were 15-1 in GB to new york and to san fran last year in GB. wasnt rodgers fault.

 

[timo]

for those of u keeping score at home since week 3 the packers lead the league in creating turnovers with 17.
momoney that's called ball hawking defense my friend.

 

[momoney2123]

for those of u keeping score at home since week 3 the packers lead the league in creating turnovers with 17.
momoney that's called ball hawking defense my friend.

I wana see it for a longer period than a few games before im a believer in the pack defense. The vegas insider on the radio today says the ratio they have going is unsustainable. He also thought the packers r over valued this week but acknowledged they are one of the top 3 teams in nfl with rodgers playin this well. See what happens. His strongest play of the week was vikings +10. He said normally this line would be around 7, but with the publics love of the packers after last 2 games, they have it at 10. Thats a 3 pt over value, which in the betting world is huge. Ill laugh when the pack win by 7.

 

[timo]

you want to see it for a longer period?
that time frame is 7 weeks, that's a good chunk of the season. but I hear ya.
I got the packers winning by 21 and only because they call the dogs off in the 2nd half.

I wana see it for a longer period than a few games before im a believer in the pack defense. The vegas insider on the radio today says the ratio they have going is unsustainable. He also thought the packers r over valued this week but acknowledged they are one of the top 3 teams in nfl with rodgers playin this well. See what happens. His strongest play of the week was vikings +10. He said normally this line would be around 7, but with the publics love of the packers after last 2 games, they have it at 10. Thats a 3 pt over value, which in the betting world is huge. Ill laugh when the pack win by 7.

 

[momoney2123]

you want to see it for a longer period?
that time frame is 7 weeks, that's a good chunk of the season. but I hear ya.
I got the packers winning by 21 and only because they call the dogs off in the 2nd half.

3 games ago that defense got torched by new orleans. I wana see more than 2 good games in a row against under achieving offenses, and also on the road. Not long ago they were the 32nd ranked run defense. I suspect this to be a closer game than most think. Vikings D is no slouch.

 

[snowdance]

The Pack vs The Vikings this weekend. Always a good division rivalry game. Nobody is talking about it...In theory should be a win for the Packers. But, this game always scares me. Many decided by last second field goals. To many people looking past this game, lets hope McCarthy and the Packers are not. I feel McCarthy is smart enough not to overlook this game...