Paulding Light

mrsrunningbear

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nic, its unreal how bright the headlights look and how they look singular...I always said like a train light, during the day you can see the 2 headlights but when dark it looks like one light....and now I think I gotta walk down to the creek...:eek: for further investigating. We're always up for a viewing! Look forward to it!

Just kidding about the investigating....done for the year...:)
 
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lenny

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Do any Paulding Experiment participants have any thoughts on the Will-o'-the-wisp theory in my previous post?

well,,,,,,,possibly, but I guess I would need to hear a description of the combustion appearance. It this a white burn which often indicates high heat of would it be yellow like typical fire. The theory seems plausible but I would like to hear just what it would look like. Let me also reiterate what I saw. What I saw was whitish and semi transparent similar to thin smoke. It clearly moved to the right mostly and at the end it whipped upward at roughly a 45 degree angle. The best logical explanation I can muster up would be a thin layer of fog hovering over the cold air over the creek, than a headlight from a car leaving the viewing area hitting the fog and reflecting to give the visual of light than a gust of wind pushing the fog in the direction I saw it move to. I do not believe that is the case because I didn't see any fog. The temp was probably 28-30 at the time, was warmer earlier in the day maybe 40-45. There were 8 vehicles there when we pulled up so people were coming and going. while we were coming back there was a vehicle leaving but my memory tells me it wasn't at the precise moment. With more time going by day by day I seem to entertain ideas in my head and loosing details. I should have considered a journal to document the experience
 

mrsrunningbear

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Collage education

Sorry gang....I wasn’t gonna bring this up again, but I just had to share this…

NMU is sending 20 kids over here for a Paulding Light experiment this Friday and the university it paying for it….how about that! Can’t wait to here what they have to say with their collage educations.....ha..maybe they've been following this thread...lol
 
Do any Paulding Experiment participants have any thoughts on the Will-o'-the-wisp theory in my previous post?

yes....will-o-wisp.....swamp gas flame....all those old azzzzz names from these things were all actually about the same event unbeknowingst to the people back then....what they all were trying to describe was as we now know.....THE AURORA BOREALIS

WILL-O-WISP = AURORA

seems like its a flame IF YOUR STANDING ON A LEYLINE of the earths magnetic grid....as the static electricity dances round in that area produceing a flame effect.....many old azzzzzz stuff is just a reference to this phenom we now know as SOLAR WINDS from a CORONAL MASS EJECTION from the sun making the sky flame colors


but to the will-o-the wisps credit....it is possible to have a cottony plant in marsh get soaked in oil from the swamp and spontanueously combust.....but becareful not to confuse the 2 ....its like an oil stained rag burning your garage down effect because of wrong storage
 
I have a album in my profile with pictures from the weekend to share with everyone! And after a good night sleep I now can collect my thoughts.....but I have to say....its all been said quite well......but I do have more to say so I'll collect my thoughts....and post later.....:)

what pictures....what album.....what stuff....no see it....how a bout a linkski provided for us lemmings pleaseski
 
click on my name and go to my profile...its in there.....:)...not sure how to link that...

its not visible...maybe you gotta be logged in whcih a cannot do all da time...so there for....which means ERGO....i need a linkski please....you open the page its on....put pointer on it in the middle and not close to anything....right click....choose PROPERTIES....now COPY THE URL ADDRESS...then reply to PC.....PASTE....hit ENTER KEY TWICE....now SUBMIT REPLY....WALLA......i can now view what the beejeesus belt you all r talkin bout da dare picture and charts dare dont ya knows.....like this

http://www.johndee.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=18873

then after you click this link i posted heres anuther way.....click on the #1 in upper left corner by my post.....it now opens another page with the post i need....point to ADDY....click and trun blue or highlite it.....now right click....copy.....reply PC....paste....submit reply...walla....just like this only a different URL ADDY....but both same thing.....now linky PLEASE JOE

http://www.johndee.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=140586&postcount=1
 
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polarisrider1

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its not visible...maybe you gotta be logged in whcih a cannot do all da time...so there for....which means ERGO....i need a linkski please....you open the page its on....put pointer on it in the middle and not close to anything....right click....choose PROPERTIES....now COPY THE URL ADDRESS...then reply to PC.....PASTE....hit ENTER KEY TWICE....now SUBMIT REPLY....WALLA......i can now view what the beejeesus belt you all r talkin bout da dare picture and charts dare dont ya knows.....like this

http://www.johndee.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=18873

then after you click this link i posted heres anuther way.....click on the #1 in upper left corner by my post.....it now opens another page with the post i need....point to ADDY....click and trun blue or highlite it.....now right click....copy.....reply PC....paste....submit reply...walla....just like this only a different URL ADDY....but both same thing.....now linky PLEASE JOE

http://www.johndee.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=140586&postcount=1

PC, like she said, then click on pics to the right of screen. works fine.
 

frnash

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Chemiluminescence (a.k.a. "chemoluminescence")

More follow up on the Will-o'-the-wisp theory; chemiluminescence, the emission of light with limited emission of heat (luminescence), as the result of a chemical reaction.

This may well explain some of lenny's observations down by the creek:

There were 3 of us that preceded down the hill from the guardrail and crossed the creek. We could not view the light from down there. When we climbed up the opposite hill we stopped to grab a cup I had and I saw light from my finger tips. I saw it earlier but didn't say anything but near the end I told my son to look and he saw it. Probably was static energy. I tried to duplicate it back at the resort to no avail, they thought I was trying to spook them. The same night as I was coming back up to the guardrail, about half way from the creek to the guardrail I looked back to see the light and saw a wisp of light move to the right and up out of sight. My son Dan and his friend Chip saw the same exact thing. I do not have an explanation as to what that was. I know I joke around here on posts but i am not making this up and when 3 people see the same thing it verifies and add credibility to the story. I did tell the others and they had not much to say.

Conclusion: we do see car lights lights out there and that's provable but if i hadn't seen the wisp above the creek the myth would be busted wide open. 99.9% of the lights are cars, many like the ongoing suspense but that .01 present leave room for other explanations, what that may be, I do not know. I kinda wish I had not see the wisp because I like working for a logical explanation. Where do we go from here, it's out of my league boys. I swing a hammer for a living.
 

polarisrider1

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anybody seen any black helicopters buzzing around in the area around paulding yet!

No. I have been there once and did see the light. Some tea totalling was involved but this is for real. I do believe it is headlights and tailights. Why the red otherwise?
 
Uh-oh, your gonna get Professor PC started again :D

too late.....he did.....headlights and taillights.....thats a good one....only a good excuse for 90 years or so though.....red and white lights were seen long before lights were invented i'm afraid....and what about the other 6 colors that are seen regularly.....one weekends observations does not make a solid conclussion...especially one as far fetched as car lights.....now thats funny....the red is because of altitude and oxygen.....not a chevy....sorry....just like a huge tsunami wave is not made from wind and storms but rather an event underground not even related to the sea fer cry eye out loud....here read this

2) What makes the color of the aurora?

The composition and density of the atmosphere and the altitude of the aurora determine the possible light emissions.

When an excited atom or molecule returns to the ground state, it sends out a photon with a specific energy. This energy depends on the type of atom and on the level of excitement, and we perceive the energy of a photon as color. The upper atmosphere consists of air just like the air we breathe. At very high altitudes there is atomic oxygen in addition to normal air, which is made up of molecular nitrogen and molecular oxygen. The energetic electrons in aurora are strong enough to occasionally split the molecules of the air into nitrogen and oxygen atoms. The photons that come out of aurora have therefore the signature colors of nitrogen and oxygen molecules and atoms. Oxygen atoms, for example, strongly emit photons in two typical colors: green and red. The red is a brownish red that is at the limit of what the human eye can see, and although the red auroral emission is often very bright, we can barely see it.


Photo by Jan Curtis
Photographic film has a different sensitivity to colors than the eye, therefore you often see more red aurora on photos than with the unaided eye. Since there is more atomic oxygen at high altitudes, the red aurora tends to be on top of the regular green aurora. The colors that we see are a mixture of all the auroral emissions. Just like the white sunlight is a mixture of the colors of the rainbow, the aurora is a mixture of colors. The overall impression is a greenish-whitish glow. Very intense aurora gets a purple edge at the bottom. The purple is a mixture of blue and red emissions from nitrogen molecules.

The green emission from oxygen atoms has a peculiar thing about it: usually an excited atom or molecule returns to the ground state right away, and the emission of a photon is a matter of microseconds or less. The oxygen atom, however, takes its time. Only after about a 3/4 second does the excited atom return to the ground state to emit the green photon. For the red photon it takes almost 2 minutes! If the atom happens to collide with another air particle during this time, it might just turn its excitation energy over to the collision partner, and thus never radiate the photon. Collisions are more likely when the atmospheric gas is dense, so they happen more often the lower down we go. This is why the red color of oxygen only appears at the very top of an aurora, where collisions between air molecules and atoms are rare. Below about 100 km (60 miles) altitude even the green color doesn't get a chance. This happens when we see a purple lower border: the green emission gets quenched by collisions, and all that is left is the blue/red mixture of the molecular nitrogen emission.

now look at how PAULDING IS AT THE VERY BASE OF AN AURORA so that you would be viewing it from the bottom of the light skirt which would produce red in abundance and white as well....more so than other colors with a ratio of 100 to 1

click on this picture and find the great lakes and see you are at the base of an aurora all the time....the brightest yellow leaning towards white hot is THE VERY BASE OF THE SKIRT
 

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