2014 poo's
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I guess I don't understand the direction Polaris is going....if the Rush was polaris's answer to the XP...then I think they whiffed badly...The Rush is certainly different...and I am not trying to anger polaris loyalists...but I can't figure out who they made the rush for??? Who are they marketing it to?? I mean there are lighter sleds...better riding sleds...and more fuel efficent sleds on the market...so who is polaris trying to attract with the rush??? I don't see polaris guys who switched to ski-doos coming back to buy rushes. If anything ...I see more yamaha guys jumping to polaris than anything else (guys looking for light weight, and reliability).
Also...why would anybody buy a new 2014 Indy 800 for over $10,000??? You can buy New left over Rushes (PRO R models) for ten grand...why buy the stripped down new sleds, when you can get a one or two year old, left over with better shocks and features??
I used to be a big polaris fan....over the last 15 years they have really lost me.
Also...why would anybody buy a new 2014 Indy 800 for over $10,000??? You can buy New left over Rushes (PRO R models) for ten grand...why buy the stripped down new sleds, when you can get a one or two year old, left over with better shocks and features??
I used to be a big polaris fan....over the last 15 years they have really lost me.
indy_500
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people who want better oil mileage really need to get a clue. cant stand people who keep saying "i love my sled it hardly uses any oil" then 2000 miles later they cant figure out why it blew up. Oh it must be snow dust or bad gas.
Anyways I'm not sure why Polaris continues to throw the idea of 4 strokes in the garbage. I would buy one if they can lighten it up. I prefer 2 stroke just can't buy something I dont trust. Guess I'll keep riding my carbed "junk" or find some more carbed "junk" to buy. I always wondered if we'd still see carbed sleds being made if it weren't for the EPA? Prolly not because people think its awesome to not have to clean their carbs or mess with jetting. I think its awesome that 3/4 of my familys sleds have 8000 miles without the heads being taken off, my last 2 sleds also had over 8000, one i sold because the crank went out (no maintenence) and the other i snapped the rear torque arm and sold it without a suspension.
I with ya Indy 4s is the future & carbed 488 fugi was 1 heck of an 2s engine but no way to compare 488 to SDI or DI 2s & for purchase price of new sled much better off with 4s these days for a trail brapper. Maybe Poo is going to sell remanufactured engines to install in 4-6K miles take a page from the doo playbook. Might work if customers plan on it & priced right? Mountain stuff is 2s all the way but you don't pile the miles on like a trail sled just need 2s engine to handle high RPMs powerband which the Poo 900 did pretty well but could not take the rigors of the trail & the complete powerband of trail riding also part of their history. How many may think WOW the return of the Indy 600 those were great sleds in the 90s with bullet proof 500 engines only to find the CFI is not a 488 fugi?lol
Folks! We have a winner!!!!!!! I always try to buy the LAST year a manu makes a model! "So you know its good!" Best time to buy a sled is right now with a carry over. If you buy them now , everyone that snow checked has most likely uncovered any bugs! Why anyone one would want a first year any new technology is beyond me? And NO I dod not want to pay for new tech every year or 2. thats why they are so spendy now!
"they've done studies you know......60% of the time, it works every time! they even put bits of real panther in it....... so you know its good"
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The top selling sled in the market today, is the Pro RMK. Its a light weight 2 stroke with extra emphasis on light weight! Seems to me that is what the market is demanding, and Polaris has hardly abandoned it. Quite the opposite, in fact.
(I may be dumb, but last time I checked, I wasn't blind.)
What's the scoop been on the most recent Polaris 600's? I know they had their initial issues when they switched over to CFI, due to electronics or mapping or fuel filters or whatever else, but have they gotten them sorted out? The prices on the 13 Indy's are hard to beat, but I'm wondering if you could expect one to run for 10 years.
Regarding the EPA's influence, I bet without that most of the sleds would have switched to EFI but not have become so "efficient" on oil, similar to what Cat continues to do with its 800 and did before with its 600 & 700. 4 strokes would still be on the table either way, as there is a market for them on the trails at least. My opinion only.
I dont plan on any 2s to last 10 yrs heck I dont plan on 5 yrs but I dont care what 1400 bucks for crank bearings gaskets and pistons.Big whoop I am lucky to get 1000 POW mi a yr.if they go 8k or more that is just a bonus.
I dont think u can expect any epa compliant sled to run 10 yrs.
the new cat 600 has the potential with unsealed bearings and a computer controlled oil pump that will most likely have a flow control built in to the aftermarket fuel control boxes.
of a recall and a oil/fuel rich re flash with every new model yr.
when the only choice I have is a 3/4 ton 4 stroke I will be done.
I have lost all excitement for the trail after 30 min I am ready to go home. cant imaging owning a 4 stroke would reinvigorate my joy of ridding endless mi of trail. no my money will then be spent in FL backwater fishing
I dont think u can expect any epa compliant sled to run 10 yrs.
the new cat 600 has the potential with unsealed bearings and a computer controlled oil pump that will most likely have a flow control built in to the aftermarket fuel control boxes.
of a recall and a oil/fuel rich re flash with every new model yr.
when the only choice I have is a 3/4 ton 4 stroke I will be done.
I have lost all excitement for the trail after 30 min I am ready to go home. cant imaging owning a 4 stroke would reinvigorate my joy of ridding endless mi of trail. no my money will then be spent in FL backwater fishing
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lenny
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funny you say that as I felt the same way. Recently I traded a snowmobile for lodging and it has changed the way I see sleddin. I have ridden mostly backwoods for the last 3 years and now I got this 3/4 yammi for my wife and have ridden it myself numerous time. When trails are smooth and the wife and I are sittin back in the evening and it's snowing real good, were looking for relaxed peaceful riding any 4 stroke will do. Yea, I am 48 yrs old and no need to get from point a to b real fast but for comfort, reliability and cost effectiveness, 4s are a good deal.
I agree with many post on this board especially the guy who rode Yamaha and switched to poo for weight reasons. If you ride real aggressive a heavier sled will require more strength to handle and you will tire out faster, just the way it is, regardless of set up, you are dealing with a mass of weight that you are trying to manipulate. I believe if poo had a motor like Yamaha they would be king of the market in all models. Poo does a great job in many ways just lacking in 4s and there are enough people who ride moderate on trails that can benefit form the dynamics of a 4s.
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My dream sled Lenny, a Yamaha 4s in a Polaris chassis. Hopefully they can come up with something soon in the 4s market! Right now they really aren't offering anything for the masses.
Really?? They came out with the Rush Chassis recently but you think they are abandoning the sleds and they are getting out of the sled market in the next year or two. Clueless! Polaris just bought KLIM, probably the top snowmobile gear out there, but again, they are getting out of the sled market.
You mean 4s trail sled masses?.... Right? Yes agree with that but Indy 2s flavers are marketed at the trail sled masses. Also for trails then have Rush short or long track SB seems limited if you don't like Rush rider foward position.... for me doo more comfortable 2s position. For me no current 4s platform so whiff on that. Indy not refined altough good bang for buck but a strip model to me. I'm a bit confused as well regarding Poo non currents we saw advertised here from M&M excellent bang for the buck would not even consider new at those prices. Maybe M&M was the clearing house for all Poo non currents to drive up prices on 2104s but if buying a Poo I would call M&M see what they have before ever considering a new Poo from any other dealer with the pricing they offered. Just saying not bashing any other Poo dealer pricing.
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Yes, I meant the 4s market as they do offer a decent trail sled and the best mountain sled.
I have ridden Polaris for over twelve years now and will be the first to say that I hope they have some new engines coming out soon. I would also like to add that I think it is funny how quick some jump to the conclusion that they are headed out of the game. I guess one could also assume that since two key manufacturers joined forces they are all but admitting that one cant make a decent engine and the other a decent suspension. The bottom line is the manufacturers do what they do to try to survive and gain market share, some times it makes sense to the consumer and some times it doesnt. If they were all they same that would be pretty boring. Its like trucks, everyone has their brand loyalty and it doesnt make anyone wrong or right. Enjoy what you ride and lets see what the future brings. As I told my wife, in a couple years we may be riding a doo you just never know.
all u people who want poo to come out with a new power plant are u willing to go out and buy a 1st yr sled with said new power? it has taken yrs to get the current offerings to run right and last now u want new.
and why bother fighting for the small slice of the 4S AARP pie when the other 3 oem have it pretty saturated now.
I would think poo will prob have a new chassi in 2 yrs. most oem make the start to change after 6yrs. they are prob designing the new sled around a 4s offering as we type
and why bother fighting for the small slice of the 4S AARP pie when the other 3 oem have it pretty saturated now.
I would think poo will prob have a new chassi in 2 yrs. most oem make the start to change after 6yrs. they are prob designing the new sled around a 4s offering as we type
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lenny
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I agree, it wasnt a total surprise to see Yam and cat do what they did,, rummer had it something was up
Agree with you Ez could be lots of stuff in pipeline just no way to know now but poo 2014 line up does have holes & I think that is what is being said. To me the product holes are by design poo chose not to have new 2s engines or 4s more of a cash cow approach good for profits. Is poo complacent again or ready to go with new offerings just don't know? To me if the Indy line up bombs meaning not popular poo has a problem & we will see deep discounts & every Poo but mountain sleds. I can't see the MSRP on Indy 800 but who gets MSRP anyway?lol
polarisrider1
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Indy line will not bomb and current 2 strokers are running fine. Poo has money coming out their ears right now and they are great at making what they got profitable. not to get off topic but new engine for Indian and the price is coming down. HD you got a company with the Victory and Indian focused on your tail. when Indian can get to apples for apples with HD then watch out! Polaris Industries (not just snowmobiles anymore).