BINGO, winner winner chicken dinner!
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BINGO, winner winner chicken dinner!
kamikaze_bros
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The company theat Polaris took the EfI from was Injection Research Specialist.
Now in 1989 the RXL was put to rest for nearly a decade and Polaris was looking to introduced a EFI model of their multi-purpose butt kicking sled the Indy 650. So they decided to revive the name, seeing as the project would be experimental.
The new RXL recieved great praise before anyone had even ridden it. Some made outrageous claims of 140-160 hp. Many called this the future of snowmobiling, which they were right, but it didn't produce much more power than the carbuerated model and the fuel economy was barely affected. They claimed fuel economy changes of 10-15%. Power was supposed to be affected as much as 20%, but then the number began to get more realistic and ended at a 5% power gain over a carbed motor. SLP and PSI both offered EFI conversion kits based off the Polaris system. Most cost cost well over $1000.
1990 was the first year of the revived RXL name. It had the standard 8 front and rear suspension with the dial adjust. As said the claims of power were outrageously exagerated. But you didn't have to rejet when going into the mountains.
The RXL would recieve a throttle body injection system. This system would be greatly criticized and even brought into courtrooms. The EFI was subject to breakdowns and suffered from an already weak ignition system on the early Indy's. In 1998 a company named Injection Research Specialists Inc. based in Colorado sued Polaris in a trade-secret misappropriation claim. The court upheld a previous ruling against Polaris in the amount of $34 million. Due to the ruling Polaris had to discontinue the RXL model and many other EFI models as well.
In the mid 1980's Ronald Chasteen invented a prototype EFI system, he spent a few years developping and perfecting it. The EFI system effectively replaces the carburetor in a two-cycle engine, increasing the engine's efficiency and allowing it to operate at an optimum level under variable atmospheric and temperature conditions. Injection Research obtained patents to protect numerous features of its EFI system. Then in 1987 approached Polaris with an offer to work together to implement the system on a snowmobile. Over the next fifteen months, Injection Research worked with Polaris to develop a contractual relationship, which included sharing trade secrets with Polaris. In 1988 Injection Research Specialists had found that Polaris hired Gerhardt Maier a former IRS employee. Polaris insisted that Maier would merely assist in cultivating Polaris' interest in EFI and its relationship with Injection Research. In December of 1988 Polaris told IRS that it was no longer interested in pursuing the EFI system on a snowmobile and backed out of the agreement, saying it was too costly. One year later Polaris began selling the industry's first EFI-equipped snowmobiles.
In 1990, Injection Research brought a suit (the "Polaris action") against Polaris. Injection Research amended its complaint in late 1991 to add as defendants Fuji Heavy Industries, Ltd. ("Fuji"), Polaris' engine supplier, and JECS, which manufactured the EFI system used in the Polaris/Fuji snowmobile engines. IRS claimed the Polaris EFI system was riddled with IRS patented technology. JECS produced documents in the case indicating it had not developped the system independently. It indicated that it used the same approach IRS used to develop their system. The trade secret claim was upheld.
Polaris wasn't the only snowmobile manufacturer to get sued however. Artic Cat was also sued by Injection Research Specialist Inc. Although they were sued, the Statue of Limitations prevented Injection Research Specialists Inc. from collecting damages.
Now in 1989 the RXL was put to rest for nearly a decade and Polaris was looking to introduced a EFI model of their multi-purpose butt kicking sled the Indy 650. So they decided to revive the name, seeing as the project would be experimental.
The new RXL recieved great praise before anyone had even ridden it. Some made outrageous claims of 140-160 hp. Many called this the future of snowmobiling, which they were right, but it didn't produce much more power than the carbuerated model and the fuel economy was barely affected. They claimed fuel economy changes of 10-15%. Power was supposed to be affected as much as 20%, but then the number began to get more realistic and ended at a 5% power gain over a carbed motor. SLP and PSI both offered EFI conversion kits based off the Polaris system. Most cost cost well over $1000.
1990 was the first year of the revived RXL name. It had the standard 8 front and rear suspension with the dial adjust. As said the claims of power were outrageously exagerated. But you didn't have to rejet when going into the mountains.
The RXL would recieve a throttle body injection system. This system would be greatly criticized and even brought into courtrooms. The EFI was subject to breakdowns and suffered from an already weak ignition system on the early Indy's. In 1998 a company named Injection Research Specialists Inc. based in Colorado sued Polaris in a trade-secret misappropriation claim. The court upheld a previous ruling against Polaris in the amount of $34 million. Due to the ruling Polaris had to discontinue the RXL model and many other EFI models as well.
In the mid 1980's Ronald Chasteen invented a prototype EFI system, he spent a few years developping and perfecting it. The EFI system effectively replaces the carburetor in a two-cycle engine, increasing the engine's efficiency and allowing it to operate at an optimum level under variable atmospheric and temperature conditions. Injection Research obtained patents to protect numerous features of its EFI system. Then in 1987 approached Polaris with an offer to work together to implement the system on a snowmobile. Over the next fifteen months, Injection Research worked with Polaris to develop a contractual relationship, which included sharing trade secrets with Polaris. In 1988 Injection Research Specialists had found that Polaris hired Gerhardt Maier a former IRS employee. Polaris insisted that Maier would merely assist in cultivating Polaris' interest in EFI and its relationship with Injection Research. In December of 1988 Polaris told IRS that it was no longer interested in pursuing the EFI system on a snowmobile and backed out of the agreement, saying it was too costly. One year later Polaris began selling the industry's first EFI-equipped snowmobiles.
In 1990, Injection Research brought a suit (the "Polaris action") against Polaris. Injection Research amended its complaint in late 1991 to add as defendants Fuji Heavy Industries, Ltd. ("Fuji"), Polaris' engine supplier, and JECS, which manufactured the EFI system used in the Polaris/Fuji snowmobile engines. IRS claimed the Polaris EFI system was riddled with IRS patented technology. JECS produced documents in the case indicating it had not developped the system independently. It indicated that it used the same approach IRS used to develop their system. The trade secret claim was upheld.
Polaris wasn't the only snowmobile manufacturer to get sued however. Artic Cat was also sued by Injection Research Specialist Inc. Although they were sued, the Statue of Limitations prevented Injection Research Specialists Inc. from collecting damages.
Firecatguy
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I have a few in the garage......
kamikaze_bros
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But it wasn't cat's design...
Who went out of business in the early 80's?
I am not a cat guy but their bankruptcy had nothing to do with their sleds. Look it up...
kamikaze_bros
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kamikaze_bros
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The girl in the last picture is!
indy_500
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I have a few in the garage......
The guy on the left is Bob Elsner. He's from New London, WI (half hour away from me) my grandpa is buddies with him and i talk to him everytime i go out for breakfast with my grandpa.
kamikaze_bros
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Bob Elsner
One of snowmobiles racing's most successful independent drivers, Bob Elsner was a consistent winner in the modified classes in oval racing throughout the 1970's, always on Arctic Cats. In 1975, after Dave Thompson was injured, Bob became the first Team Arctic driver not from northern Minnesota.
Bob continued his steady competitiveness after joining the factory team and the pro ranks. The big driver won the Sno Pro high-point Driver of the Year title (1978) and won the World's Championship for Arctic Cat in 1979. He was a top five-point finisher in each of his seven seasons as a pro-driver.
Bob enjoyed one of the longest, most consistently successful careers ever posted in snowmobile racing and be was a leader at the Arctic Cat during the transition to independent suspensions and the legendary Arctic Z racing sled in the late 1970's.
One of snowmobiles racing's most successful independent drivers, Bob Elsner was a consistent winner in the modified classes in oval racing throughout the 1970's, always on Arctic Cats. In 1975, after Dave Thompson was injured, Bob became the first Team Arctic driver not from northern Minnesota.
Bob continued his steady competitiveness after joining the factory team and the pro ranks. The big driver won the Sno Pro high-point Driver of the Year title (1978) and won the World's Championship for Arctic Cat in 1979. He was a top five-point finisher in each of his seven seasons as a pro-driver.
Bob enjoyed one of the longest, most consistently successful careers ever posted in snowmobile racing and be was a leader at the Arctic Cat during the transition to independent suspensions and the legendary Arctic Z racing sled in the late 1970's.
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harvest1121
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You should listen to your elders and see what they ride.
no you forget Indy credo to live buy his words not my words is she aint 380 she aint a lady
Put down your pinch hitter Ezra. I will put the IQ Raw RMK up against any m series sled, I've ridden both, here, the yoop, out west, and they are very very close to each other.
I cannot stand bran blind sledders.
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2010 Jackson Hole Results
Stock 600 Stock 700
1st #303 Luke Rainey Ski Doo 1:31.143 1st #303 Luke Rainey Ski Doo 1:31.321
2nd #252 Cole Willford Polaris Mark 2nd #149 Chance Buckallew Arctic Cat Mark
3rd #103 Rob Kincaid Arctic Cat Mark 3rd #711 Keith Curtis Polaris Mark
4th #149 Chance Buckallew Arctic Cat Mark 4th #270 Carson Ellingford Ski Doo Mark
5th #206 Brad Sharp Ski Doo Mark 5th #18 Brand Mackert Polaris Mark
Stock 800 Stock 1000
1st #303 Luke Raineys Ski Doo 1:25.557 1st #711 Keith Curtis Polaris 1:21.763
2nd # 30 Todd Tupper Arctic Cat 1:30.001 2nd #147 Les Keller Arctic Cat 1:31.638
3rd #150 David McClure Arctic Cat 1:30.438 3rd #150 David McClure Arctic Cat 1:33.614
4th #708 David Sharp, Jr. Ski Doo 3:05.001 4th #708 David Sharp, Jr. Ski Doo 1:37.259
5th #201 Kirby Woodard Ski Doo Mark 5th #108 Shad Free Arctic Cat 1:42.317
Pro Masters Stock
1st #179 Tom Roby Ski Doo 1:30.438
2nd #208 David Sharp Ski Doo 3:50.26
3rd #206 Brad Sharp Ski Doo Mark
4th #5 Rusty Johnson Ski Doo Mark
5th #30 Todd Tupper Arctic Cat Mark
Improved Stock 600 Improved Stock 700
1st #149 Chance Buckallew Arctic Cat Mark 1st #150 David McClure Arctic Cat Mark
2nd #333 Cody Clawson Arctic Cat Mark 2nd #87X Casey Jump Arctic Cat Mark
3rd #28 Mike Zollinger Arctic Cats Mark 3rd #4 Nick Zollinger Arctic Cat Mark
4th #238 Ben Adams Arctic Cat Mark 4th #13X Erin Beukelman Polari Mark
5th #103 Rob Kincaid Arctic Cat Mark 5th #128 Tyler Crockett Polaris Mark
Improved Stock 800 Improved Stock 1000
1st #179 Tom Roby Ski Doo 1:45.058 1st #108 Shad Free Arctic Cat 1:23.934
2nd #318 Kyle Tapio Arctic Cat Mark 2nd #109 Justin jacobson Ski Doo 1:32.539
3rd #156 Vinnie Clark Ski Doo Mark 3rd #273 Colton Ellingford Ski Doo 2:06.088
4th #273 Colter Ellingford Ski Doo Mark 4th #147 Les Keller Arctic Cat Mark
5th #333 Cody Clawson Arctic Cat Mark 5th #74 Jason Crane Polaris Mark
Pro Masters Improved Stock Mod 600
1st #208 David Sharp Ski Doo 1:49.495 1st #442 Josh Hartlerode Polaris 1:28.298
2nd #206 Brad Sharp Ski Doo Mark 2nd #3 Tony Zollinger Arctic Cat Mark
3rd #120 Tyson Thomas Polaris Mark 3rd #44 Scott Thompson Ski Doo Mark
4th #179 Tom Roby Ski Doo Mark 4th #231 Sid Archibald Arctic Cat Mark
5th #115 Faron Gilbert Ski Doo Mark 5th #270 Carson Ellingford Ski Doo Mark
Mod 700 Mod 800
1st #270 Carson Ellingford Ski Doo 1:48.036 1st #322 Russ Tapio Arctic Cat 1:16.128
2nd #44 Scott Thompson Ski Doo 2:00.049 2nd #156 Vinnie Clark Ski Doo 1:20.370
3rd #10 Tyler Ropelato Arctic Cat Mark 3rd #44 Scott Thompson Ski Doo 1:22.522
4th #110 Josh Koreski Polaris Mark 4th #3 Tony Zollinger Arctic Cat 1:24.531
5th #52 Nathan Zollinger Arctic Cat
Mark 5th #208 David Sharp Ski Doo 1:25.684
Open Mod Pro Masters Mod
1st #442 Josh Hartlerode Polaris 1:23.991 1st #206 Brad Sharp Ski Doo 1:25.521
2nd #222 Dennis Durmas Polaris 1:26.893 2nd #51 Kirk Williamson Polaris 1:25.962
3rd #318 Kyle Tapio Arctic Cats 1:28.941 3rd #45 Mark Thompson Ski Doo 1:31.860
4th #12 Steve Martin Ski Doo Mark 4th #208 David Sharp Ski Doo 1:33.385
5th #320 Nels Tapio Arctic Cats Mark 5th #116 Charlie Lopeman Polaris Mark
Women's Stock Women's Improved Stock
1st #616 Shannon Barngrover Polaris G6 1st #137 Amy Zollinger Arctic Cat G5
2nd #137 Amy Zollinger Arctic Cat G5 2nd #113 Raysha Gladfelder Ski Doo G4
3rd #205 Jan Ottobre Arctic Cat G4 3rd #616 Shannon Barngrover Polaris G3
4th #69 Charise Cook Arctic Cat G3 4th #205 Jan Ottobre Arctic Cat G2
5th #113 Raysha Gladfelder Ski Doo G3 5th #354 Christy Frisby Arctic Cat G1
Women's Mod Non Pro Masters Mod
1st #137 Amy Zollinger Arctic Cat G5 1st #130 Norris Brown Ski Doo 2:01.090
2nd #113 Raysha Gladfelder Ski Doo G4 2nd #181 Rick Budge Ski Doo G5.5
3rd #205 Jan Ottobre Arctic Cat G3 3rd #137 Gil Winters Polaris G4.5
4th #616 Shannon Barngrover Polaris G2 4th #148 Doug Hudson Arctic Cat G3.5
5th #829 Whitney Udy Arctic Cat G1 5th #571 Kelly Winters Ski Doo G2.5
Amateurs Local Juniors
1st #225 Tom Eastman Ski Doo 2:13.016
2nd #16 Travis Wilson Arctic Cat G7
3rd #216 Steven Call Arctic Cat G6
4th #210 Kevin Kronfuss Arctic Cat G5
5th #203 Mike Adams Ski Doo G4
RMSHA Juniors Semi-Pro Stock
1st #130 Trace Tupper Arctic Cat 52.194 1st #136 Patrick Trujillo Ski Doo 1:59.432
2nd #411 Jay Mentaberry Ski Doo 53.807 2nd #429 Jake Kilroy Ski Doo G9
3rd #141 Blaine Mathews Ski Doo 54.098 3rd #63 Dane Wilson Ski Doo G8
4th #420 Justin Thomas Polaris 58.949 4th #165 Milo Fear Ski Doo G7
5th #75 Mike Thompson Ski Doo Mark 5th #282 Kyle Singleton Ski Doo G6
Semi-Pro Improved Stock Semi-Pro Mod
1st #63 Dane Wilson Ski Doo 2:00.415 1st #136 Patrick Trujillo Ski Doo G5
2nd #136 Patrick Trujillo Ski Doo G8 2nd #355 Mike Anderson Ski Doo G4
3rd #215 Cody Burningham Polaris G7.5 3rd #129 Levi Kilroy Polaris G3
4th #355 Mike Anderson Ski Doo G7 4th #165 Milo Fear Ski Doo G2
5th #129 Levi Kilroy Polaris G6 5th #63 Dane Wilson Ski Doo G1
Kings of the Hill Women's Queen
Stock - #303 - Luke Rainey - Ski Doo #616 - Shannon Barngrover - Polaris
Improved Stock - #108 - Shad Free - Arctic Cat
Mod - #322 - Russ Tapio - Arctic Cat King of Kings
Semi-Pro - #63 - Dane Wilson - Ski Doo #322 - Russ Tapio- Arctic Cat
I don't see all that many 1st place cats
Ski doo-14
Arctic Cat-7
Polaris-5
So explain to me how Arctic Cat is SOOOOO ahead of the game?
Give him a minute Indy, he had to take off his green sunglasses, and put down his glass of green cool aid.