slickwilly08
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POLARISDAN, whitedust - see ya!
your departure from the bandwagon is noted. lol
your departure from the bandwagon is noted. lol
NFL thread
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Don't know if you have NFL ticket? I do...watch some other middle rated NFL teams they would kick the Bears butts...Bears at best lower half of the league lots of Bills & Panthers type teams out there that play better than the DA Bears. Look around & you will see what I mean. Da Bears just are not a very good football team soooo many performance holes that other teams see & prepare a game plan to beat the Bears butts! I'm not impressed with 2nd year of coach Trestman & crew at all.
slickwilly08
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I hear ya, BUT I'm a Bears fan win or lose... Maybe you can jump on the packers bandwagon, I'm sure there's a spot for you.
Actually I like all the North teams but favor Da Bears sure it would be easy to be a Pack fan in WI but not my intention. I don't get blinded by hype rather let the team show how well they play & then call a spade a spade....only way Da Bears can improve. If you compare the current Bear team performance to lower middle rated NFL teams the Bears are fading fast. Compare the Bears to the Seahawks or Broncos & just not near their level of play so where are Da Bears going at current team performance?.... no where but down. Game plan simple rush Cutler he will put it on the ground, get injured, or throw a pick sooner or later contain Forte & WRs score 28 points & you have a W. Also play to whistle blows Bears have been scored on 2x by Pack & Pathers with Bear players standing around asking what just happened. You got to be kidding that is awful coaching!!
momoney2123
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things change weekly big dog. New england for example. Gaurenteed if you were a patriot or giant fan you woulda said they suck cant beat no one yada yada and waved ur white flag. Instead of waving the white flag, im in it for the long haul. You should be graded by the whole body of work, not the first paragraph. Do the bears have a lot of improving to do, yes. But it can be done. Its NOT lack of talent.
chill out slick willy.
whitedust just stating facts of the case. telling it like he feels. who said anything about changing alliances? I like the brewers,,they stunk 2nd half. Does that mean I go out and buy a cubs jersey??
CMon man.
whitedust just stating facts of the case. telling it like he feels. who said anything about changing alliances? I like the brewers,,they stunk 2nd half. Does that mean I go out and buy a cubs jersey??
CMon man.
Interesting statement as Pats & Bears meet soon.... what will the outcome be? ..both teams struggling... Got to give coaching to the Pats & compare Cutler to Brady ...lol.... is that a fair comparison? Not so much ..imo.... Cutler never been to a SB won't be this year either. Brady is the real deal went thru a ruff a patch back on track now.
momoney2123
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my POINT is, its way to early to hit the GIVE up button. If we had no talent like the jaguars or raiders id say we are done. But we have talent.
That's actually the big issue, the bears have the talent! When talent doesn't live up to its potential there's a problem. It's interesting that defenses are playing the bears like the bears used to play other teams; a bend but don't break. We can rack up the yards but can't get the points. The bears defense this year surprisingly is right where we wanted them, ranked in the middle of the league. That's a huge improvement for them. This weekend should tell us a lot about our team.
Yeppers...something is missing with this group on paper appears to be very talented. Bears could use a solid speed back ,a Reggie Bush type, & speedy WR for 3rd & long + a good return guy would help too but the losing culprit seems to be coaching imo.... the basic skill player elements are present.
momoney2123
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a solid speed back? What do u consider forte? That is the least of their issues haha. Plus carey is a nice compliment. Santonio holmes is still at the elementary level of learning the offense. U cant just get a speed guy and wing him in their. But he Should learn more each week. And marques wilson is due to return after the bye. 1 game out, 11 games left. Lota season to make any conclusions.
garyl62
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Guess there was no come back for "the losing culprit seems to be the coaching"
I wish they could win, but I'm not going to make excuses, tell people to put on their rose colored glasses so they see things the same way I do, jump on or off a band wagon or anything else. I will say I appreciate the comments from guys that can see both the good with the bad and give honest balanced reviews.
Forte an every down all around back but not a shifty burner or a power runner yes good speed & hands but not that effective on 3rd & long.....needs help or Bears would be making 3rd & long with him. Carey has not shown much...Yes better than Ford but north & south runner & not that big either could be gone next year..... just like Ford. Holmes getting old may have a little left also could be gone next year Wilson not going to come in & turn things around either needs time to get up to speed & untested.
momoney2123
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ur crazy. Forte is arguably the best 3rd down back in the nfl. Didnt he have a 56 yard reception on 3rd and long last week? And a north south runner like carey is a perfect compliment. He is going no where. Given that wilson spent the whole offseason with cutler, marshall and jeffrey. And the fact he will be getting back on the practice field soon along with a bye week to prepare, I suspect could make an immediate impact. He has way more time spent catching balls with cutler than holmes and is part of the reason I feel cutler and holmes have struggled to connect. This week I feel will speak volumes of what the bears are made of. Good or bad.
You are always pushing an agenda that is not backed up by on field performance.....read it & weep the true Bear reality....lol... http://www.chicagobears.com/news/ar...Panthers/9d58fbc8-1dea-4aed-b6a6-9dfffc4ba369
momoney2123
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Hahaha. Pushing an agenda? Anyone who knows anything knows the problem with bears is not the lack of a 3rd down speed back, that could be the most ludacris thing ive read in a long time. Anyone who knows anything, knows there Is 11 games left and anything can happen, the season is FAR from over. At the moment they have issues, but the good thing is they can be fixed. Like I said its not lack of talent, which CANT be fixed. In your world there is no need to play out the season because you think you already kno the outcome. Which is absolutely false. No one knows. They could win out or lose out, thats the beauty. So the only agenda that is not backed up is your give up they suck mentality.
So with that reasoning Darren Sproules departure didn't hurt new Orleans this year & the addition of a Sproules type back would not help the Bears in their system. You got to be kidding ...just not happening on the field with current cast of players & without changes expect more of the same. Bears keep putting themselves in 3rd & long & Forte can't do it alone & Carey is about power running ball control not a speed back at all. I see you didn't read anything the experts wrote about the Bears & continue to ignor the facts & short comings of this current Bear team....no changes in system & players you get more of the same. I would post current power ratings but you would ingnor that as well Bears & Vikings about the same way down there.lol
momoney2123
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Im not saying sproles didnt hurt NO, nor saying he wouldnt help our team. But if we had sproles our record would be no different. Running back is not an area of issue for the bears and would be a waste of money to invest in sproles when forte does it better, and is a 5x better blocker. Power Rankings mean absolutely NOTHING. My whole point. There is one rank that has any merit. The division ranking, we are 1 game out and thats a fact, with 11 to play, another fact. If the season ended today I would agree, they arent very good. But u don't get what im saying, so much time to improve and I believe they will.
PS I thought u dont read into what people put in magazines and websites. You make your own conclusion. Hmmmmmm
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Interesting Sproles got into this conversation. The Bears let Hester go to Atlanta and he is having a resurgent year there. Change of scenery for Sproles and Hester or different coaching? Part 2 - Don't you guys think that it is better to get off to a fast start and perhaps coast to a division title rather than fight tooth and nail only to be completely spent if you do manage to scrape into a wildcard? You go into the season with less injuries than you get along the way. There really is no time to 'mesh' or improve. You better kick butt early when and where you can. Like Seattle. All NFL teams have talent. Not all NFL teams have good coaches.
POLARISDAN
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man u like the cool-aid bro..the bottom line is cuthead is the highest paid qb in the league and absolutely not worth mid level money..hes inconsistent and always will be..i for one am sick of it and will not waste another sunday on him..i didn't watch for 10 years until loser lovie came on board, and ended up wasting a bunch more sundays..he was so bad last week..happy feet, bad reads, nothing deep, all checkdowns..its pathetic..cutler will never make the playoffs let alone win one..done done and done