Poos Problems

[polarisrider1]

This is what is cool about the whole thread. People who may have not known ANYTHING, now know SOMETHING. Just think of the all the people who may be looking to upgrade from there current sled, say a 2000-2005, and are looking at an 09 800 dragon. Well, now they can read that there were some issues, and to be aware of that before spending the money. Before the internet, we hardly ever knew about issues, unless you owned one.

Take my example earlier of my Renegade, I had read countless posts about guys going through pistons/rings on the Doo 600 HO. Ski-Doo said, there is no problem. LOL. Riiiight. I watched my compression drop throughout the year, as did my brother. Without the net, I would have not known there was a problem, you know the dealer was not going to say "by the way, you will probably have to put new pistons/rings in after this year".

I really never understood the brand loyalty to the point of not keeping an open mind.

What year Renegade? I had an 06 600 SDI gade and put 4400 miles on it then sold it to someone on this site. Never heard if they had issues or not. I had issues with the selinoids/relays?? popping out of sockets, eating belts and the gas gauge not working. The gas gauge seems as an accepted issue by the Doo hardcore but really bugged me.
Don't worry, I am not so brand loyal to not keep an open mind. But I do defend the newer 800's until they start going and it is manufacturer caused not neglect by the owner. I would switch back to Doo if they build a better off trail mouse trap then Poo has.... so let's wait and see. Yami is an excellent trail sled and a big dollar price to buy. Cat is not so much the sled as it is the colors they use and the owner attitude from the crowd that buys them. Some feel that way with HD guys or BMW riders so they stay clear of those products.
It would be nice to have more information on the past Poo Problems and how they are being dealt with then just bantering back and forth and going nowhere on the subject. I understand not everyone can simply replace what they have. I also understand that Polaris does a horrible job at customer service for many, but that is what a good Dealer should take care of for you. The big time dealers such as Nelsons are listened to much better then the poodunk outfits. Something to make note of. Also how much do you spend at that dealer and your relationship with your salesman plays into how your taken care of.
Pat offered up some info that he feels will help some of the issues and the cat guys bashed a fellow cat guy into the ground for it????? Makes no sense. but does add to my perceived thoughts on the cat crowd, even more then the group of cat guys with pipes and a I could care less what you think of the noise attitude as they pull ear plugs from their ears at the gas station and their buddies do donuts in the parking lot since they are to good to wait in line like the rest. Years of that crap does create distrust and dislike for the rider of that brand also. (waiting for grout to dry and had some time to type).

 

[Skylar]

Mine was the mid year release, so it was an 05, but still had the 04 motor in it.

How much one spends at a dealer should not determine how well a customer should be treated. They should be treated all the same. My dealer down here is a very small mom and pop place, 3 guys work there, they went to bat for me when my 07 rmk had a hose rub through due to where it was routed from the factory, my extended warranty on it would not cover the repair and replace on it, so my dealer ate it. I have bought one sled form them, and one atv, plus lots and lots of parts. They treat everyone the same.

Poo has never issued a recall on any of the 08-10 800's, so you are telling me that all of the 800's that went down at Tog were caused by owner neglect? What happened, the mechanics at Tog forget to fill them with oil every morning?

As far as "cat" guys whipping cookies in parking lots, and having loud pipes, I have seen every brand represented by these type of people, it is the person, not the machine that make them act like that.

Hoosier, I had heard about the 06 Poo 600's with bad carb boots the year my buddy bought his 06 Switchy, I had to replace his at the end of the season. I kept my eye on the boots on my 07 600 RMK, even though the problem was suppose to be fixed by then, I had to replace them after that first year, and those went bad also, replaced them again after 2nd year. Rumor was poo used the same boots, but packaged them up with different part numbers, until they had depleted the stock they had of the "bad" ones.

 

[Dave_B]

Polaris did have "recalls" on the 09 800. They went by the fancy name of "reflash". I don't remember how many. If I have to use more than one hand to count, I get confused.
They also replaced the rings and can, if I'm not mistaken.

Now I have to figure out how to replace the carb boots on my 06 600 Switch.

 

[Hoosier]

Mine was the mid year release, so it was an 05, but still had the 04 motor in it.

How much one spends at a dealer should not determine how well a customer should be treated. They should be treated all the same. My dealer down here is a very small mom and pop place, 3 guys work there, they went to bat for me when my 07 rmk had a hose rub through due to where it was routed from the factory, my extended warranty on it would not cover the repair and replace on it, so my dealer ate it. I have bought one sled form them, and one atv, plus lots and lots of parts. They treat everyone the same.

Poo has never issued a recall on any of the 08-10 800's, so you are telling me that all of the 800's that went down at Tog were caused by owner neglect? What happened, the mechanics at Tog forget to fill them with oil every morning?

As far as "cat" guys whipping cookies in parking lots, and having loud pipes, I have seen every brand represented by these type of people, it is the person, not the machine that make them act like that.

Hoosier, I had heard about the 06 Poo 600's with bad carb boots the year my buddy bought his 06 Switchy, I had to replace his at the end of the season. I kept my eye on the boots on my 07 600 RMK, even though the problem was suppose to be fixed by then, I had to replace them after that first year, and those went bad also, replaced them again after 2nd year. Rumor was poo used the same boots, but packaged them up with different part numbers, until they had depleted the stock they had of the "bad" ones.

Yeah, I keep my eye on them now. Just about every issue I had with that sled could have been avoided if I would have dropped if off at the dealer that I trust and had them give it a lookover prior to me taking it out and riding it. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another 600 Poo, carb at least.

 

[polarisrider1]

Polaris did have "recalls" on the 09 800. They went by the fancy name of "reflash". I don't remember how many. If I have to use more than one hand to count, I get confused.
They also replaced the rings and can, if I'm not mistaken.

Now I have to figure out how to replace the carb boots on my 06 600 Switch.

it is easy. first thing I checked on the 755 I had. not a single mile on the sled and boots were cracked. looked like dry rot. The boots were replaced by my dealer in Michigan, Not by the Poodunk St. Paul, Min. area dealer. I suspect he is long gone as the bank was foreclosing him when I picked up the sled.

 

[polarisrider1]

Skylar, we are talking real world and not the way it should be. You are correct that it should not matter how much coin one spends at a place of Business as to the service they recieve. In my neck of the woods a squeaky wheel tightwad only gets so far. Friends and big time customers truly do get better treatment then say the guy who beats the dealer to shreads on a price, buys nothing else from them and leaves. A Business is to make money and make as much as they can, It is not there to provide jobs as many believe. Keeping guys who buy plenty from them example: sled (s) trailer, gear, jet skis, motorcycles, lawn mowers, etc. and the guy who got just a sled, guess who gets taken care of. sad but true.

 

[polarisrider1]

Mine was the mid year release, so it was an 05, but still had the 04 motor in it.

How much one spends at a dealer should not determine how well a customer should be treated. They should be treated all the same. My dealer down here is a very small mom and pop place, 3 guys work there, they went to bat for me when my 07 rmk had a hose rub through due to where it was routed from the factory, my extended warranty on it would not cover the repair and replace on it, so my dealer ate it. I have bought one sled form them, and one atv, plus lots and lots of parts. They treat everyone the same.

Poo has never issued a recall on any of the 08-10 800's, so you are telling me that all of the 800's that went down at Tog were caused by owner neglect? What happened, the mechanics at Tog forget to fill them with oil every morning?

As far as "cat" guys whipping cookies in parking lots, and having loud pipes, I have seen every brand represented by these type of people, it is the person, not the machine that make them act like that.

Hoosier, I had heard about the 06 Poo 600's with bad carb boots the year my buddy bought his 06 Switchy, I had to replace his at the end of the season. I kept my eye on the boots on my 07 600 RMK, even though the problem was suppose to be fixed by then, I had to replace them after that first year, and those went bad also, replaced them again after 2nd year. Rumor was poo used the same boots, but packaged them up with different part numbers, until they had depleted the stock they had of the "bad" ones.

Were did you get the part about Tog. and no oil???? never said that??? I am talking 2012 sleds and newer. most the 2011's were fine. The dealer had a service bulliten on a gas line reroute on my 07 755 and took care of it. they did the boots to for free. So I guess our idea of what is new and what is old varies a bit. What is considered a problem for the 08-10 800's and what quantity of them I am sure is on Poo's list and they have the answers, but for the sake of the stock holders wanted to minimize the losses of repairs or recalls. Sometimes a company needs to ride it out and hope it goes away with time. This is happenning as those sleds get totalled out/scraped, but just on a larger scale then other manufacturer defect "ride outs". No sled manufacturer in a level to dieing off market is safe or has the funds in there "sled division" to save themselves in anyother way.

 

[Skylar]

Were did you get the part about Tog. and no oil???? never said that??? I am talking 2012 sleds and newer. most the 2011's were fine. The dealer had a service bulliten on a gas line reroute on my 07 755 and took care of it. they did the boots to for free. So I guess our idea of what is new and what is old varies a bit. What is considered a problem for the 08-10 800's and what quantity of them I am sure is on Poo's list and they have the answers, but for the sake of the stock holders wanted to minimize the losses of repairs or recalls. Sometimes a company needs to ride it out and hope it goes away with time. This is happenning as those sleds get totalled out/scraped, but just on a larger scale then other manufacturer defect "ride outs". No sled manufacturer in a level to dieing off market is safe or has the funds in there "sled division" to save themselves in anyother way.

I still consider a 2008 sled a newer sled. My point was that I highly highly doubt the troubles people have had with the 2008-2013 Poo 800 had anything to do with owner neglect. It is not just this thread on this website that talks about the issues with the Poo 800.

 

[polarisrider1]

I still consider a 2008 sled a newer sled. My point was that I highly highly doubt the troubles people have had with the 2008-2013 Poo 800 had anything to do with owner neglect. It is not just this thread on this website that talks about the issues with the Poo 800.

Correct. Well, wish us luck since we both have one.. If I have issues I will let you know and will you do the same. I have been following it on Snowest also.

 

[Skylar]

Skylar, we are talking real world and not the way it should be. You are correct that it should not matter how much coin one spends at a place of Business as to the service they recieve. In my neck of the woods a squeaky wheel tightwad only gets so far. Friends and big time customers truly do get better treatment then say the guy who beats the dealer to shreads on a price, buys nothing else from them and leaves. A Business is to make money and make as much as they can, It is not there to provide jobs as many believe. Keeping guys who buy plenty from them example: sled (s) trailer, gear, jet skis, motorcycles, lawn mowers, etc. and the guy who got just a sled, guess who gets taken care of. sad but true.

Well, that is probably true. I cannot afford to have all the toys, and never will. There are three dealers that have taken really good care of me over the years, KandM Sales and Service in Hancock WI, M&M Powersports in Hancock Mi, and Pats Yamaha in Greenland, Mi. These dealers have gone above and beyond to help me out, and the people I ride with. Customer service is what they excell at, and i really don't think it matters to them if one is rich or not. They treat people the same. Must be their small town up bringing that has something to do with that.

Now, that being said, there is a cat dealer real close to where I live, he really likes treating the rich people very very good, and the not so rich, kinda like dirt. Which is why I have never bought anything from him. To be honest, he is quite the *****, 'course, he has money too.

 

[Skylar]

Correct. Well, wish us luck since we both have one.. If I have issues I will let you know and will you do the same. I have been following it on Snowest also.

You know if I have a problem, I will say something LOL. So far so good. Love this thing!

 

[Firecatguy]

didnt poo dust the 900 big block under the rug too? Robbie had his 09 rmk rebuilt 2 times by dealer and Red had his 3 times...not sure if they called it a recall or not? was never rider neglect also the first kit they put in reds sled was updated with a "new" kit that had new pistons...poo stoped using the manufature and went with a diffrent maker and metal....also remeber poo telling Tog it was the amsoil that was taking their motors out......hmm on second thought maybe it was the oil.....

 

[polarisrider1]

didnt poo dust the 900 big block under the rug too? Robbie had his 09 rmk rebuilt 2 times by dealer and Red had his 3 times...not sure if they called it a recall or not? was never rider neglect also the first kit they put in reds sled was updated with a "new" kit that had new pistons...poo stoped using the manufature and went with a diffrent maker and metal....also remeber poo telling Tog it was the amsoil that was taking their motors out......hmm on second thought maybe it was the oil.....

LOL, ya never know!

 

[Dave_B]

We became Polaris loyal for two reasons.
We have liked the sleds and have bought a lot over the years.
When we started sledding, there were two dealers near us. Shoeders Polaris and Headwaters Polaris. Both close and they always took care of us.
The rest is, and will be history. On a Polaris.

 

[Skylar]

We became Polaris loyal for two reasons.
We have liked the sleds and have bought a lot over the years.
When we started sledding, there were two dealers near us. Shoeders Polaris and Headwaters Polaris. Both close and they always took care of us.
The rest is, and will be history. On a Polaris.

So, what you are really saying is you are loyal to your dealer, who just happens to sell Polaris?

When i first got into sledding, my buddy's family were cat people, so I became your stereotypical brand loyal cat guy. But, after 11 years of being a cat guy, my local small town mom and pop dealer decided to call it quits. Well, crap, now what I said. Turns out, I was loyal to that dealer.

My bases are covered as far as great dealers go, as long as I don't go back to Ski Doo LOL.

 

[polarisrider1]

So, what you are really saying is you are loyal to your dealer, who just happens to sell Polaris?

When i first got into sledding, my buddy's family were cat people, so I became your stereotypical brand loyal cat guy. But, after 11 years of being a cat guy, my local small town mom and pop dealer decided to call it quits. Well, crap, now what I said. Turns out, I was loyal to that dealer.

My bases are covered as far as great dealers go, as long as I don't go back to Ski Doo LOL.

Now how did I get a whole different interpretation of what he said????? crazy internet.
I heard he really likes the sleds Polaris offers and that the dealers took care of him. (dealers being plural).

 

[Firecatguy]

I buy what works the best at the time and what dealer gives best price......works great for me..most payed 10 to 12g back in 08 for m8sp I shopped like crazy found the dealer that was hurting that year and got it for 8g.......no loyal dealers here in Mn just people who take your money then good luck with service.....work on all my own becuse how chitty dealers are here....
this is how i buy a sled....June or July poke the dealer in the eye....

I wish Chad was closer I belive I would look at dealers diffrently...

 

[Dave_B]

We became loyal because those were the only dealers around. We keep our sleds up north. Not only did we like the product, we had instant service and good deals.
The only sled that ever caused us never ending problems was the Fusion. I don't want to go into the Fusion paradox.

 

[lenny]

I ride a Yamaha because of the dealer, Pat's Yamaha. It is the worst chassis out of the 4 man's but it is worth it for me to ride it cause Kip hooks me up all the time with used parts and advise, service, he is also a good friend now, our kids play together, just good people altogether.

I did call Kip yesterday and he said he did indeed take a blown up 2012 pro rmk 800, and didn't Pwolfy say his poo was a 12 that blew up?

 

[indy_500]

I did call Kip yesterday and he said he did indeed take a blown up 2012 pro rmk 800, and didn't Pwolfy say his poo was a 12 that blew up?

Pwolfys wasn't a pro rmk i believe it was a switchback (non assault)