His personal experience/preference doesn't tell me much. I've had and owned all the doo chassis as well, including the XP and XM. There is a big difference. Those engineers at BRP (and all the other manufacturers for that matter) don't get paid to put crap on the market. No matter what who and anyone says, its all in personal preference, so to each their own..
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His personal experience/preference doesn't tell me much. I've had and owned all the doo chassis as well, including the XP and XM. There is a big difference. Those engineers at BRP (and all the other manufacturers for that matter) don't get paid to put crap on the market. No matter what who and anyone says, its all in personal preference, so to each their own..
indy_500
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If that's what you want to call it, then yes. It was a **** of a good bandage. (So good that others are trying to modify it into other chassis also!).. Either way, it was a great peice of engineering, and made a big difference for 13. Enough about that though. Lets get back to Poos problems...
3' ski stance just to get it to roll over sounds like a big band aid to me. looks goofy, cant imagine trying to ride it on hardpack through a corner
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lenny
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lol,,,your on bud!!!!!! Who is this "we" you are referring to? You can say all this in hindsight Mark but that is not what you or the "we" have been claiming through the thread
I, like most have been talking about the 800 motor and to this date I never remember you or PR1 admitting poo had an issue. Maybe you can look back and see if you can find a post like that. So now you are admitting (how convenient) that for 3 of the 5 years for the poo 800,,,it was a pile? Show me that post where you, or the "we" had thought that all along,,,, please!
I would hope poo could fix a problem after 4 years but do you see why the average guy would be hesitant? Not all guys will go dump 12 g's on a pile.
Here is where most of the problems, conflicts, insults we see on this thread. Many riders will become loyal to a brand for what ever reason, good or bad. Some, like yourself are so brand loyal they allow strife to come between friends as you do with me. Some love to ride so bad they will sacrifice a quality issue for comfort, balance, ergonomics,,,etc,,,,,and that's reasonable,,,some cannot afford to do that. Some just love their brand so much they will say and do anything to defend their brand.
So the "we" (your words) have been saying a problem does not exist, is this what you were right about? Are you right about 3 of 5 years poo sucked with the 800 motor? So when you say you were right, what are you really saying? Are you saying you'r right when you say we are bashing poo buy stating they have serious problems with their 800 motors? Mark, I hate to say it but your blinded severely by brand loyalty, to the point you make erroneous claims about who is right and who is wrong even when the "we" claimed it was not a problem.
On the very small percentage that Carter represents as poo owners, is that enough evidence the problem is resolved. What standard are we basing this on. Are we gonna say it's a great motor after a season. How long is long enough for a sled owner to say my motor is reliable. I have said many many post back I believe there has been improvements but that's not good enough for you, this loyalty is BS!
Hasn't poo earned the sucky award for building junk motor for 3 of 5 years,,, I am no engineer but for a person to be skeptical after 3 horrible years, that's reasonable yet you turn it into a matter of you being right and me being wrong,,,,,,
Here is a quote of mine, post 101 : I certainly do not think Polaris is a crapy manufacturer or have any inclination to bash them. The are innovative and build what many top riders prefer and we cannot take that away from them. This thread is in particular about the 800 motor only,,,not Polaris as a sled makerHere is a quote of yours which always come back to poo loyalty, not facts to support a claim, post 281: I can't figure out if it's Poo envy or a crazy obsession as a select few just can't quit bashing them. Heck, they even bash Poo in a car thread. I call that an obsession.
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I said we were right the last "2" years as I didn't see all the engine issues everyone was referring to since 2011. Re-read my post. I never denied they had an engine issue in the past, but I saw no information to support that they still had the same problem the past 2 seasons. That's why I said the past 2 years, and not since 2008!
So the highly respected person was right about the 08-11 being a pile but the same person doesn't represent enough Poo owners to be right about the last 2 years? You crack me up with your inconsistencies. You say "Are we gonna say it's a great motor after a season" when he said it's been 2 seasons now without a blown 800.
Relax Lenny.
So the highly respected person was right about the 08-11 being a pile but the same person doesn't represent enough Poo owners to be right about the last 2 years? You crack me up with your inconsistencies. You say "Are we gonna say it's a great motor after a season" when he said it's been 2 seasons now without a blown 800.
Relax Lenny.
Haha. Indy....., your opinion is of very little value there young one. What are you riding? Something like a 2002 shorty right? Ill leave it at that. Was just having fun with the doo comment. This thread is for the folks wanting to talk poo, so ill refrain from further comments off that topic.
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lenny
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wrong again Mark but nice try! Carter was saying the same thing many of us had been saying all along but you just didn't want to listen and chalk it all up to bashing. I also said I believe there to be improvements and that is also what Carter said. Carters statements only support what most already know but you loyalists cannot see past your own blinders, It's nice to see you have seen some light just a shame you waited this long, but keep up the good work, you can make it!
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lenny
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I wonder what year pwolfy sled was, or the one Kip had that blew up when he took it in on trade in, I;ll check into that and get back with you mark!
Firecatguy
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was the skirts and the heating issue.....
Firecatguy
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I Talk to Carter every am we are good friends....I made a post here 40 or 50 pages ago and told you guys exactly what happen in those years with rental sleds and personal sleds most where Carter words....you guys jumped down my throte bet some you remeber the Gizmo chat? well that was one the fix for the 800
Firecatguy
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and poo problems go way back farther than 11 with motors.....poo had a big block issue for years the 900 was a big pos.....
lets not forget crank ends falling off 800's.
big bearing kits
line boring week cases
the 800 liberty has had way more bad yrs than good .
I don't care what they say they did to fix it I would not buy one unless there engineers built a good one. the public had very few issues for 3 yrs and they did not tinker at all with the 4th yr then I could see buying one.
no one sees me and my green pom poms on a pro climb chasi do u.
I have been a crap tester far more than my share .now I am a prove to me it works buyer.
polarisrider1
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Do you guys (Lenny and Ezra) truly think that you will sway any of us Poo loyal? Not happening. We trench in. Living in the past is not healthy for you. Ezra is as much cat as many of us are Polaris. We don't need to bash your rides to feel like men. If this thread helps to keep you from beating the wife or kicking the dog then so be it. Just remember I will tow you out of the bush if need be.
I followed this thread from day 1 & ezra hits tech points on the head for all brands. Lenny has been in the middle great RMK chassis but poo 800 has been problematic which we all know is true at least IMO from all that has been posted. PR1 & mpease very very brand loyal & quick to jump on any poster should something be posted about any Poo sled problem. I'm riding a Yamaha Attak & luv the sled for trail & unplowed FRs riding but stinks in powder in stock form & very heavy to dig out. To me every brand has it's good & bad points just the way it is in the real world. If someone is buying a poo 800 they should know the history & there have been problems & why I like JD snow central since both sides can be discussed but IMO PR1 say what you have to say without the brand blinders tell people what to beware of not water weakenss down to nothing just not informative. mpease I would agree with Lenny ease back a bit on Poo brand protection as a mod let it roll along a bit more then jump in down the line say whatever you want but remember mod does carry site status. Just stating my opinion & how I try to filter information of value & enjoy interaction with all of you.
indy_500
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I WAS riding an 07 IQ 600 which will be gone by the end of the week
07 IQ 600 didn't have staying power for ya what 1/2 season if that? What is next?
Looooooooongtrack.
I have owned many poo in my day last 1 was 2 winters ago.
a colt a few indys a xlt a ultra a rmk . stating facts is not bashing . feel free to bash away on the pro climb all day I do