Poos Problems

polarisrider1

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I would rather see a poll from those in the Midwest/Great Lakes area where the majority of us do most of our riding.
You can't compare sleds operating at such a difference in elevation. It's apples to oranges.

shouldn't be?? clutching changes only with efi. The mtns. are way harder on the sleds.
 

polarisrider1

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so help me to interpret this particular stat:

No Major Failure 0 to 1000miles 378 45.16%

Does this mean that out of 378 pollsters, 45.16 didn't have a major problem?

It is kinda misleading or hard to interpret. Like I got 2200 miles on and so I am stuck to pick the 1000 to 2500 slot.
The poll could of included zero issues also. I would total all the % for no major issues and get an answer for sucsess rate????? This being since the major failures don't give mileage of when issue happened. So it is hard to compare anything from this. We need more info. heck the failures could have one mile or 10,000 miles we don't know. It would of been nice to narrow the poll to year also since Poo was still tweaking between those years and I suspect the 2012 issues are less but no proof. I figure since we are on 30 pages we may try to get some info into the thread that gives us something to discuss rather than a friend of a friends friend stuff.
 

polarisrider1

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I would rather see a poll from those in the Midwest/Great Lakes area where the majority of us do most of our riding.
You can't compare sleds operating at such a difference in elevation. It's apples to oranges.

okay Dave B. that is your assignment find us another poll. lol
 

polarisrider1

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so help me to interpret this particular stat:

No Major Failure 0 to 1000miles 378 45.16%

Does this mean that out of 378 pollsters, 45.16 didn't have a major problem?

no. you have to include the sleds that have higher mileage also since they have past the 378 polled folks mark. to be more acurate. The poll should of been: engine failure and mileage to compare with no failure and mileage and done by each year starting with 08 to 13. That would give us a real good picture of things going on.
 
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indy_500

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5000 is good? I was kinda thinking of a different word but I'll let it go!

I agree I think 7-8k should be the magic # but everybody out there gets skeptical with a sled around 5k because the top end is a time bomb. My 99 indy 500 i sold with 8400 miles with a junk crank bearing just sold my 99 xc sp 700 with 7800 miles still running strong sold my dads 99 xc sp 700 this spring with 8800 miles stator went out otherwise itd start and run strong until it was warmed up. My 05 xc sp 500 currently has 8300 miles still running like a top. Only motor ever opened up was my 99 xc 700 for base gaskets but all i replaced WAS the gaskets.All in all if I could buy a new Poo 800 and trust it to last 5k I would buy one in a heartbeat, but, I don't. Guy i used to play baseball with has a 2013 SBA 800 motor killed at only 900 miles this past winter.
 

indy_500

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The mtns. are way harder on the sleds.

I'm not so sure I agree, granted I've never been out there, but, theres a never ending amount of snow. You're never riding on crappy snow, dirt, etc. your not hitting stumps, seems like more wide open areas for WOT runs. WOT is always the richest area of your throttle range, most guys who beat their stuff sometimes have better luck keeping an engine going. As long as your not holding the flipper down to the bars for minutes on end WOT is not bad for a motor at all as long as its clutched within reason. Its always holding it in the mid range that kills it. Maybe I'm wrong on my assumption?
 

polarisrider1

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nope thats 06. 07 was 600 and 700 only! (the real 700)

okay, my brain is scrambled now. the 900 ran two years. The 755 ran one year???so it was an 06 thought my IQ was an 07 755RMK??? My 05 switchback was a 600 144. went to Doo renegade 600SDI 136 for 06 to skirt the fusion fiasco.
Indy is that correct.
I had a 700 dragon in 07, flat black. wife just showed me the picture of it. It went to Togwotee and never returned. The 755 was a two year carryover and the others were brand new current year sleds.

Man I miss new sleds every year.
 
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snoluver1

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I'm not so sure I agree, granted I've never been out there, but, theres a never ending amount of snow. You're never riding on crappy snow, dirt, etc. your not hitting stumps, seems like more wide open areas for WOT runs. WOT is always the richest area of your throttle range, most guys who beat their stuff sometimes have better luck keeping an engine going. As long as your not holding the flipper down to the bars for minutes on end WOT is not bad for a motor at all as long as its clutched within reason. Its always holding it in the mid range that kills it. Maybe I'm wrong on my assumption?



Riding in the mtns is way harder on a motor. It has more to do with the load being placed on the engine and heat build up, than throttle position and fuel mapping.
 

polarisrider1

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I'm not so sure I agree, granted I've never been out there, but, theres a never ending amount of snow. You're never riding on crappy snow, dirt, etc. your not hitting stumps, seems like more wide open areas for WOT runs. WOT is always the richest area of your throttle range, most guys who beat their stuff sometimes have better luck keeping an engine going. As long as your not holding the flipper down to the bars for minutes on end WOT is not bad for a motor at all as long as its clutched within reason. Its always holding it in the mid range that kills it. Maybe I'm wrong on my assumption?

I have to be a bit careful on how I put things since I sold my last 5 sleds to fellow JDee posters. (all good sleds but ridden) The mtns. are way harder on sleds. Altitude changes constant, The stumps, rocks and such, lack of oxygen and gas stations in the west like ethanol. Pinned motors with no resistants. Well that is why the 700 never came home. The so called stump was an actual tree I hit in a 12' deep hollow filled with snow, it had no top due to a fire. It became a parts sled with 40 miles on it. That would fall under the massive failure category.
 

indy_500

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okay, my brain is scrambled now. the 900 ran two years. The 755 ran one year???so it was an 06 thought my IQ was an 07 755RMK??? My 05 switchback was a 600 144. went to Doo renegade 600SDI 136 for 06 to skirt the fusion fiasco.
Indy is that correct.
I had a 700 dragon in 07, flat black. wife just showed me the picture of it. It went to Togwotee and never returned. The 755 was a two year carryover and the others were brand new current year sleds.

Man I miss new sleds every year.

LOL we went over this about a month ago your rmk "700"/755 was an 06 absolutly positively sure of it.
 
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lenny

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I would have to agree that the WOT would load the machine and push it's heat to the max, but than again I am no expert by any means, just seems logical in me mind.
 

ezra

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it is not the just wot but wot under heavy load.
and the whole day is far from wfo but always under heavy load
 

Dave_B

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Reminder to all,
Mine was a 2009 800 Dragon Switchback. A time bomb with a very low price on it. One worth taking a chance on and got my moneys worth.

This should get back to the facts of 2011+ which seems to be everyone's concern. Well, at least Lenny's.
My point of the East/West gang thing stemmed from a comment that some mechanics didn't see an issue out west and most of us are from here and there are, it appears, to be more burn downs at lower elevations for whatever reason.
Mine was NOT from cold start. I never touch a throttle until the engine temp is at least 90 degrees.
 
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lenny

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Reminder to all,
Mine was a 2009 800 Dragon Switchback. A time bomb with a very low price on it. One worth taking a chance on and got my moneys worth.

This should get back to the facts of 2011+ which seems to be everyone's concern. Well, at least Lenny's.
My point of the East/West gang thing stemmed from a comment that some mechanics didn't see an issue out west and most of us are from here and there are, it appears, to be more burn downs at lower elevations for whatever reason.
Mine was NOT from cold start. I never touch a throttle until the engine temp is at least 90 degrees.

great post Dave! The poo 800 history all goes together IMO, the past leads us to the current model Now we ought to be able to find some more info on what poo has done exactly to deal with this,,heck I am wanting one more than ever now, I just need it to run, and run for 3-4 years at min before I tear it down,,,, that's all I'll ask of it!

Tear it up guys cause I won't be posting for a few days, going to Illinois to see family
 
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indy_500

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The kool-aid tastes good
 

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